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Fall Foliage 2017

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5 minutes ago, dendrite said:

how does climate change affect foliage? You have a wide range of avg temps up and down the mtns and you get great foliage at every elevation. You can get good foliage well south of New England where it's warmer on avg as well. It's just been one of those years where we didn't get the normal progression. We got the maples going early and then went back to summer. 

4 days with temps in the 90s, does not seem like a normal up or down to me.

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42 minutes ago, Sugarloaf1989 said:

The Mohawk picture was taken with bright sunlight directly overhead, so the color looks bleached. I thought the middle picture was nice but that's my opinion. CT is not the ideal foliage state.

I didn't mean to take anything away from the quality of the pic. The middle one is nice.

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Just now, Sugarloaf1989 said:

4 days with temps in the 90s, does not seem like a normal up or down to me.

Nothing about this fall has been normal. What does this have to do with climate change? 

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1 minute ago, dendrite said:

That's specific to this year. What's the climate change explanation?

None, just pointing out that where not alone with poor foliage.

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6 hours ago, eyewall said:

For many there was no true peak this year, just pockets of good color and as you said so much variability with green trees next to ones that are nearly bare.

I know you said, "for many" and not "everyone" but I will disagree anyways, haha... I was poo-pooing the foliage earlier, there was definitely a "peak".  I just needed to be more patient and wait for the heat to roll out.

I think down in SNE it'll happen at some point, people will be like, ok now its peak.  Some of those photos from Litchfield County look pretty darn peak-like now.

Here's what I think are "peak"...

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Another thing for me is looking out over the landscape and seeing the red/orange hue across the land...and this season had that too.  When you just look out and its orange.  It certainly wasn't as crazy vibrant as some other falls but I think I was wrong a while ago and just needed to wait a bit more. 

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21 hours ago, wxmanmitch said:

It's definitely stick season above 2K in VT. ~90% leaf drop with just a few stragglers left, particularly the beeches in the understory, which are a copper color. Peak was probably around Columbus Day, but that rain and wind from the remnants of Nate brought down a lot of the brighter colors just as things were peaking. Like a lot of places, this was one of the more disappointing foliage years I've ever seen around here. Some drone photos of the foliage.

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Yeah that qualifies as stick season, lol.  Not much left there in S.VT high terrain either it looks like.

 

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On 10/20/2017 at 0:47 PM, wxeyeNH said:

Whites are past peak.  We are just passing peak here in the NW Lakes Region.  Yesterday might have been peak day but lots of leaves coming down.  The one exception is the oaks which are just starting to turn their golden brown.  I posted a drone flight a bit back in my thread from 2 days ago.   Really pretty poor color in my area this year...

 

7 hours ago, wxeyeNH said:

This foliage season really has baffled me.   Still so much green in my area.  The maples are mostly past but most other tree species have not.  Oaks are mostly green.  Very little change this week but has never looked like this on Oct 21rst.  Of course we are running near record warmth.  A week has past since I posted the first picture below.  I had my other smartphone with me today so its not a direct comparison but you get the idea.  Still very green up at 1400 feet.  It's hard to believe that in N VT its bare.  I wonder if we will have any power issues this upcoming week with strong winds and trees still mostly in full leaf?   First picture is Oct 14th second picture was from today,  Oct 21st.

 

Gene... not going to lie but these two posts seem to contradict each other?  Lots of green and very green up to 1,400ft or passing peak? 

I'm very surprised you are very green up to 1,400ft...hard to believe as my climate is a bit cooler than yours but not by that much.  You gotta search to find anything green up here in the RT 100 corridor valley bottom at 700ft...and you need to search for leaves in general above 1,500ft.

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28 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

I know you said, "for many" and not "everyone" but I will disagree anyways, haha... I was poo-pooing the foliage earlier, there was definitely a "peak".  I just needed to be more patient and wait for the heat to roll out.

I think down in SNE it'll happen at some point, people will be like, ok now its peak.  Some of those photos from Litchfield County look pretty darn peak-like now.

Here's what I think are "peak"...

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Another thing for me is looking out over the landscape and seeing the red/orange hue across the land...and this season had that too.  When you just look out and its orange.  It certainly wasn't as crazy vibrant as some other falls but I think I was wrong a while ago and just needed to wait a bit more. 

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My pictures from Killington look similar and we definitely had peak foliage around Columbus Day. But it was really quiet this year with a lot fewer people out to see the foliage. Are times I had route 100 entirely to myself heading south to MT Snow.

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1 hour ago, Sugarloaf1989 said:

I read in Vermont Today as early as 2000, speculation that climate change could ruin the foliage. From recent memory 2013 and 2017 where bad. It's also bad on tourism, C. and S. Vermont where dead these past few weeks. I heard from friends who cancelled vacation stays in Vermont for foliage. 

Man not up here... for fuks sake these peepers are insane.  Even this weekend, past peak, lots of bare trees, and town is a sh*tshow.  We got bombarded at the mountain because summer/fall activities are done for the season (we closed last Sunday) but town is still packed with all hotels full...and they were quite disappointed to find the Gondola/TollRd/Zipline closed (but also shows that they did no research as those dates are well published by like Memorial Day).  It being 70F and full sun didn't help...but normally this time of year no one wants anything to do with the mountain as its usually 43F and raining or slate gray.

If anything, I would say this fall's weather boosted business...even if it hurt the leaves.  Very few rainy days (actually only one real all-day rainout) and most of the time it has been 100% sunshine with warm afternoons and chilly mornings.  People love that weather.  If you see its going to be 70F and sunny this weekend in foliage land in Vermont...that's like President's Weekend in February with a forecast of sunshine and a high of 30F. 

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1 minute ago, powderfreak said:

Man not up here... for fuks sake these peepers are insane.  Even this weekend, past peak, lots of bare trees, and town is a sh*tshow.  We got bombarded at the mountain because summer/fall activities are done for the season (we closed last Sunday) but town is still packed with all hotels full...and they were quite disappointed to find the Gondola/TollRd/Zipline closed (but also shows that they did no research as those dates are well published by like Memorial Day).  It being 70F and full sun didn't help...but normally this time of year no one wants anything to do with the mountain as its usually 43F and raining or slate gray.

If anything, I would say this fall's weather boosted business...even if it hurt the leaves.  Very few rainy days (actually only one real all-day rainout) and most of the time it has been 100% sunshine with warm afternoons and chilly mornings.  People love that weather.  If you see its going to be 70F and sunny this weekend in foliage land in Vermont...that's like President's Weekend in February with a forecast of sunshine and a high of 30F. 

Not your area, but the NEK, is where friends cancelled hotel reservations.

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Yeah that qualifies as stick season, lol.  Not much left there in S.VT high terrain either it looks like.

 

The western slopes of the greens in SVT still have some pretty nice red colors even up to 2500ft, I guess the western exposure and more warmth and sunlight are the difference in the delay.

Bad photo from a good distance away, but this was todays view out backyard, you can see its not stick season quite yet, but it is over the ridge tops and in the high spots east of the spine like in the photos mitch was posting

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