tamarack Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Just now, 40/70 Benchmark said: What is that, sand? And browned vegetation. Great link from NASA. (Which was posted while I was typing this.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 haven't been paying attention during the last 24 hours but when I first bothered to take a peek at satellite .. the first thing that came to mind was a memory of the super storm in '93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Zoomed in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 this time sensitive image is pretty spectacular ...and rare! full bird nor'easter cyclone SE of NS, transitioning cyclone over the interior SE associated with remnant Irma, and pure tropical cyclone east of the Bahamas... that's like batting for the Cycle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: this time sensitive image is pretty spectacular ...and rare! full bird nor'easter cyclone SE of NS, transitioning cyclone over the interior SE associated with remnant Irma, and pure tropical cyclone east of the Bahamas... that's like batting for the Cycle! what you have there is 3 fetches into the SE Coast, no wonder they had record tidal flooding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Zoomed in Wow. That's nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 40 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Back to ENSO monitoring for me. Do you have a winter preview out yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 My town buried utility wires along a section of lakefront this spring. The process is ridiculously complicated once you start getting into easements for those green transformer boxes and all the blasting required. The final cost was $786,000 for 1/3rd of a mile. Makes a lot more sense to just deal with a few hours/days of power outages per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said: only extreme damage is the Keys, Naples is some flooding, some trailer park damage and trees, sign damage There's some good damage to well built homes on east side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Jose looks like a TS. Exhaust squashing him like an OES CJ to Ray's dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j24vt Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Posted this over in the Tropic Headquarters: I think people tend to focus on the icon in the center of the track when looking at the cone. I would like to see the NHC change the way it is represented for the 3, 4, and 5 day predictions. Instead of placing the icon in the center of the cone consider placing an icon on each edge of the cone for days 3-5 and connecting them across the cone similar to what is done in the experimental forecast of the arrival of tropical force winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said: stripped vegetation, check this out https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=90952 Thanks for that. Pretty awesome. Shows the true power of a cat 5 eyewall. It's going to take many many years for the vegetation on those islands to recover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Seems like thanks to its interaction with Cuba, Florida came out of this better than expected. Much different beast when most wind gusts were measured in the 90s and low 100s, with a couple higher maxes like the 142mph at Naples....than if those spots were seeing 150mph with spot gusts to 185mph like the islands did. Miami with a max gust in the 90s is probably much better than the 72 hour forecast of like 160mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Proud to say that we are helping with supporting humanitarian missions from our customers to islands hit by Irma and have no observations to report. It is becoming a horror scene there and really is not getting the media coverage it deserves. If people have a few bucks to spare, if suggest making a donation for those islands. Anybody from the USVI on east. I know what happened in FL and TX sucked, but those people on those islands are very poor and could use the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Seems like thanks to its interaction with Cuba, Florida came out of this better than expected. Much different beast when most wind gusts were measured in the 90s and low 100s, with a couple higher maxes like the 142mph at Naples....than if those spots were seeing 150mph with spot gusts to 185mph like the islands did. Miami with a max gust in the 90s is probably much better than the 72 hour forecast of like 160mph. Yeah sigh of relief especially with surge. Although the areas that got the eyewall really got smacked good. The east side of the state sort of took it on the chin with a large area of 80-100mpg gusts and surge. I think that's what impressed me. Thanks to the high to the north, the wind field from Irma became a massive pressure gradient. The keys are really in rough shape. I'm hearing some bad stories coming from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 25 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Yeah sigh of relief especially with surge. Although the areas that got the eyewall really got smacked good. The east side of the state sort of took it on the chin with a large area of 80-100mpg gusts and surge. I think that's what impressed me. Thanks to the high to the north, the wind field from Irma became a massive pressure gradient. The keys are really in rough shape. I'm hearing some bad stories coming from there. The keys are Barbuda bad. Much of them gone/ uninhabitable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thess Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 The keys are Barbuda bad. Much of them gone/ uninhabitable Do you have any links? Sincerely asking. I keep hearing rumors but can't find much so far on mainstream media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: The keys are Barbuda bad. Much of them gone/ uninhabitable No they're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: The keys are Barbuda bad. Much of them gone/ uninhabitable They aren't that bad, but they're heavily damaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Since its 911 this will probably be Jose's fate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: They aren't that bad, but they're heavily damaged. Saw some completely stripped vegetation pics there today. Unknown as to amount of casualties, lots of little towns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 55 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Yeah sigh of relief especially with surge. Although the areas that got the eyewall really got smacked good. The east side of the state sort of took it on the chin with a large area of 80-100mpg gusts and surge. I think that's what impressed me. Thanks to the high to the north, the wind field from Irma became a massive pressure gradient. The keys are really in rough shape. I'm hearing some bad stories coming from there. Yeah I don't want to downplay the fact that a huge area saw gusting winds over 80mph. And that eyewall location saw those 125-150mph gusts. It just seems like this ended up "relatively better" for Florida than it was looking like 3-4 days out when a CAT 5 might roll into Miami. CAT 5 really is the difference between solid damage and just being wiped off the Earth. Still, when you really think about it...I know their vegetation has evolved to take high winds from tropical storms...can you imagine getting even sustained 50mph with gusts to 80mph for hour after hour here in New England? It's happened before and will happen again, but over such a wide area that would level most hardwood forests in New England, especially with heavy rain to saturate the soils. I certainly can't imagine what those conditions that Mike Bettes saw on TWC yesterday evening on live TV would be like here in New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Just now, powderfreak said: Yeah I don't want to downplay the fact that a huge area saw gusting winds over 80mph. And that eyewall location saw those 125-150mph gusts. It just seems like this ended up "relatively better" for Florida than it was looking like 3-4 days out when a CAT 5 might roll into Miami. CAT 5 really is the difference between solid damage and just being wiped off the Earth. Still, when you really think about it...I know their vegetation has evolved to take high winds from tropical storms...can you imagine getting even sustained 50mph with gusts to 80mph for hour after hour here in New England? It's happened before and will happen again, but over such a wide area that would level most hardwood forests in New England, especially with heavy rain to saturate the soils. I certainly can't imagine what those conditions that Mike Bettes saw on TWC yesterday evening on live TV would be like here in New England. Oh no question. Our trees are softies compared to those. The palms and other species are made for strong winds. And the building codes there are made for Cat Vs too, so there is that. If there was one good thing from Andrew, he really helped drastically improve the building codes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 46 minutes ago, CT Rain said: No they're not. Sky news had the minister of Barbuda stating that the island was on the verge of being uninhabitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 48 minutes ago, thess said: Do you have any links? Sincerely asking. I keep hearing rumors but can't find much so far on mainstream media. Sky news for Barbuda, but I do not have the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Sugarloaf1989 said: Sky news for Barbuda, but I do not have the link. I was saying the Keys aren't as bad as Barbuda - in response to Kevin's post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, CT Rain said: I was saying the Keys aren't as bad as Barbuda - in response to Kevin's post. Ok, I did not going through the whole thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Barbuda being evacuated ahead of Hurricane Jose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: Oh no question. Our trees are softies compared to those. The palms and other species are made for strong winds. And the building codes there are made for Cat Vs too, so there is that. If there was one good thing from Andrew, he really helped drastically improve the building codes. How their trees hold up to snow load though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 18 minutes ago, mreaves said: How their trees hold up to snow load though? We'll find out when the next "Snow King" happens. Jose looking somewhat better. Shear relaxing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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