July 2017 Discussion

[Jonger]

9 hours ago, IthielZ said:

Oddity of the night: both ORD and DTW reporting "Smoke" due to atmospheric conditions causing the 4th of July fireworks smoke in the respective cities to linger at ground level.

Must have been a hell of a lot of sparklers in Illinois to get to that point. Michigan has real legal fireworks and I can imagine this happening at DTW.

[michsnowfreak]

On 7/4/2017 at 11:33 AM, Powerball said:

As far as the bolded, 2012 was more stormy with a couple rounds of severe weather. During the late afternoon hours, after temps surged into the low 100s, multi-cell storms rapdly popped up over the heart of the metro area producing numerous reports of large hail and 3-4" of rain (within 2 hours) along the I-75 corridor from downtown to Ferndale. Then, later that night between 3-5am, a bow-echo more through producing numerous high wind reports leaving thousands of people without power 

It's just that, despite smacking Detroit proper and the immediate surrounding suburbs hard, the storms in 2012 were mostly north and east of DTW,

I actually got quite the storm on July 4, 2012 (while DTW 7 miles west didnt get a drop). But July 4, 1969 had severe hail, tornadoes, and derechos. My mom was 11 an she can remember it. It was quite the outbreak on that day, surprised you have never heard of it.

[michsnowfreak]

18 hours ago, CCM said:

It pretty much takes record blocking for us to have BN temperatures nowadays. And as soon as a "cool stretch" ends we start breaking records lol. 

We have been in a warm stretch for since late 2015. Prior to that we were in a cool stretch (Feb 2013 - Mar 2017 DTW had 25 AN months and 25 BN months). Im sure you were being facetious but it does not take record blocking to get BN temps lol. Looking at computerized monthly outlooks for the next several months, nothing extreme either way (doesnt mean it cant happen though).

 

Im summer I really dont care. I always prefer cooler than normal but it does not make or break my day regardless how the weather is. A notable trend (which has to do with both humidity and Urban Heat Island) is that summer overnight low temps are increasing much more than high temps. This summer has been for the most part comfortable here, and very likely could end up below the average amount of 90s but with a positive temp departure. Thats in no way a forecast btw. Just saying. There has actually been no real impressive heat here locally and there is none in sight. We have had 3 days of 90F so far, all in June, max 92F.

[cyclone77]

Another 89 at MLI today.  Hit 87 here.  

A few isolated cells popped up and dumped very heavy rain just south of town.  Remained bone dry again here though.  I guess we'll try again tomorrow.

[Hoosier]

8 minutes ago, cyclone77 said:

Another 89 at MLI today. 

Brutal

[cyclone77]

Tough conditions in southeast Wisconsin at the moment.  Heat index of 188 at Burlington.

 

 

EDIT:  Was even worse earlier with a heat index of 258.

[Hoosier]

4 minutes ago, cyclone77 said:

Tough conditions in southeast Wisconsin at the moment.  Heat index of 188 at Burlington.

 

 

EDIT:  Was even worse earlier with a heat index of 258.

Burlington, Iran

[SchaumburgStormer]

Solid summer storm working through now. Torrential rain with gusty winds

[SchaumburgStormer]

11 minutes ago, SchaumburgStormer said:

Solid summer storm working through now. Torrential rain with gusty winds

.86" of rain in 15 minutes 

[CCM]

9 minutes ago, SchaumburgStormer said:

.86" of rain in 15 minutes 

This perennial wet pattern we've been in is really starting to get old.

[Spartman]

On 7/5/2017 at 2:53 PM, michsnowfreak said:

We have been in a warm stretch for since late 2015. Prior to that we were in a cool stretch (Feb 2013 - Mar 2017 DTW had 25 AN months and 25 BN months). Im sure you were being facetious but it does not take record blocking to get BN temps lol. Looking at computerized monthly outlooks for the next several months, nothing extreme either way (doesnt mean it cant happen though).

 

Im summer I really dont care. I always prefer cooler than normal but it does not make or break my day regardless how the weather is. A notable trend (which has to do with both humidity and Urban Heat Island) is that summer overnight low temps are increasing much more than high temps. This summer has been for the most part comfortable here, and very likely could end up below the average amount of 90s but with a positive temp departure. Thats in no way a forecast btw. Just saying. There has actually been no real impressive heat here locally and there is none in sight. We have had 3 days of 90F so far, all in June, max 92F.

I respect your opinion about the below-average number of 90-degree days expected this Summer. Only one 90 here, so far. Based what I am looking at on Gary's Weather2020 12-Week Forecast page, if you and I are looking for the next opportunities of 90-degree weather, we're better off waiting until sometime in August for anymore of those. Since the beginning of record-keeping for DAY, there has never been a Summer there when 90s were recorded exclusively in June. Earliest last 90 ever was on July 8, 1971. Definitely paying for last Summer. 

[Powerball]

So far, this Summer has basically been a cooler repeat of 2016.

It has been somewhat better on the convection / severe weather front, but that's not saying much following last year's disaster.

[Stebo]

1 hour ago, Powerball said:

So far, this Summer has basically been a cooler repeat of 2016.

It has been somewhat better on the convection / severe weather front, but that's not saying much following last year's disaster.

Convection yes, severe no. We have had a few decent storms but not much severe weather. Last year was actually doing better to this point.

[thomp2mp]

This spring/summer has been meh.

I think we've been under two TSTM watches, neither of which produced anything crazy. The long-range models don't look too promising either. 

Digging the low humidity attm because we just moved and our upstairs doesn't have a/c.

[hawkeye_wx]

It looked like we would get through this early to mid week unsettledness without seeing any rain.  The storms have been small and pretty isolated.  However, late this evening, storms fired up by Dubuque and rode the outflow boundary southwestward through Cedar Rapids.  There were a couple hail and wind damage reports along the way, but it was just rain here.  I was fortunate to pick up 0.59", more than enough to refill the empty rain barrel.  A station only a half mile to my nw received nearly twice that.

[cyclone77]

Could use some rain here.  Only 2.50" last month, and still nothing this month.  Tomorrow/tomorrow night doesn't look too promising either.  Several days in a row we had storms close enough to hear the thunder, but no rain.  Kind of frustrating.

[CCM]

This summer has def been warmer than last summer around here. Not nearly as humid though. 

If it weren't for the nino forcing/+PNA this summer would easily be as hot as 2012 if not hotter.

[outflow]

7 hours ago, Spartman said:

 Based what I am looking at on Gary's Weather2020 12-Week Forecast page, if you and I are looking for the next opportunities of 90-degree weather, we're better off waiting until sometime in August for anymore of those

To quote Chicago storm: lol

[hlcater]

8 hours ago, hawkeye_wx said:

It looked like we would get through this early to mid week unsettledness without seeing any rain.  The storms have been small and pretty isolated.  However, late this evening, storms fired up by Dubuque and rode the outflow boundary southwestward through Cedar Rapids.  There were a couple hail and wind damage reports along the way, but it was just rain here.  I was fortunate to pick up 0.59", more than enough to refill the empty rain barrel.  A station only a half mile to my nw received nearly twice that.

1.12 in Hiawatha in less than an hour, quite a pop up storm. I'll take it.

[Chicago Storm]

To quote Chicago storm: lol

Saved me from having to do it.

[Hoosier]

7 hours ago, outflow said:

To quote Chicago storm: lol

I never even heard of Garyweather 2020 or whatever.

Would be better off not even looking at these super long range forecasts.

[CCM]

19 hours ago, Spartman said:

I respect your opinion about the below-average number of 90-degree days expected this Summer. Only one 90 here, so far. Based what I am looking at on Gary's Weather2020 12-Week Forecast page, if you and I are looking for the next opportunities of 90-degree weather, we're better off waiting until sometime in August for anymore of those. Since the beginning of record-keeping for DAY, there has never been a Summer there when 90s were recorded exclusively in June. Definitely paying for last Summer. 

yeah, won't hit 90 here until next month despite the fact that it's 91 at ORD right now.

 

 

oops.

[Powerball]

19 hours ago, Stebo said:

Convection yes, severe no. We have had a few decent storms but not much severe weather. Last year was actually doing better to this point.

Technically, severe weather is pretty much a wash compared to last year (6 reports in 2017 vs. 7 reports in 2016 to-date).

That said, I did say combined convection / severe weather. There was NO meaningful convection in the Tri-County area before the lone supercell that tracked along the I-94 corridor on 7/8/16. Heck, half of the wind reports in 2016 to-date were from a line of low-topped *showers* in March.

[cyclone77]

93 here today, 91 at MLI.  Tonight's system looks like a bust here, so looks to stay dry until at least late in the weekend.

[Indystorm]

I like the potential for ring of fire convection/severe chances for the upcoming week as the heat dome builds out to the west.  Could get interesting with multiple impulses.

[cyclone77]

Just now, Indystorm said:

I like the potential for ring of fire convection/severe chances for the upcoming week as the heat dome builds out to the west.  Could get interesting with multiple impulses.

Yeah looks promising.

[Powerball]

14 minutes ago, cyclone77 said:

Yeah looks promising.

*Takes cyclone77's hand and knocks it on wood*

[Hoosier]

High of 93 at ORD, which ties for 2nd hottest so far this year.

[Hoosier]

10 minutes ago, Powerball said:

*Takes cyclone77's hand and knocks it on wood*

Get ready to watch all the better convection miss to your sw.  

[Chicago Storm]

High of 93 at ORD, which ties for 2nd hottest so far this year.

And 92 at MDW.