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Hoosier, the Weather2020 site is co-founded by the LRC inventor himself, Gary Lezak.

Topped out at 76, despite some evening sun, and also overperformed on today's rainfall amount with a total of 2.22 inches.


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SXUS71 KILN 061911 RRA
RERDAY

RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WILMINGTON OH
0311 PM EDT THU JUL 06 2017

...RECORD DAILY MAXIMUM RAINFALL SET AT DAYTON OH...

A RECORD RAINFALL OF 2.22 INCHES HAS BEEN SET AT THE COX DAYTON
INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD DAILY RECORD OF
1.91 INCHES SET BACK IN 1926.

THIS STATEMENT WILL BE UPDATED AT THE END OF THE DAY WITH A FINAL
RAINFALL TOTAL.

 

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5 hours ago, Hoosier said:

Pretty warm looking 00z ECMWF barring convective influences.

Yeah it sure does.  Has 105 degree heat for southeast Iowa next Wednesday lol.  

EDIT:  Interesting disco from DVN.  Either very hot, or very stormy depending on where the ROF largely sets up..


...The
NAM/GFS/GEM all are slightly farther west with the high pressure
ridge axis, and the corresponding edge of mid level heat. For that
reason, they are exceptionally stormy over our CWA for Sunday PM
through next weekend. The GFS keeps us in the battle zone with the
main 850mb heat dome only briefly into eastern Iowa Wednesday before
another backdoor cool front drops in for late week.

The pattern synoptically supports nightly strong MCS, with
progressive wind damage threats and training heavy rain threats. As
to whether this directly impacts out CWA or not cannot be certain
for several days.  The large scale differences are problematic,
given that they are not apparently due to convective feedback or
other easily diagnosed issue. The EC is just a shift in longitude
east with the same pattern as the GFS, but that forecast is
substantially hotter and drier than the GFS  deterministic forecast.
In any case, hot and humid weather be a certainty this upcoming
week, as both patterns support dewpoints of 70 to 75, and given a
boundary in the area, it could support dewpoints in near 80 this
time of the year. Combine that with temperatures in the upper 80s to
lower 90s, and we could have a forecast that will either tip towards
flooding, or dangerous heat. While that seems unusual, to have a
forecast seem a binary, it is actually normal for a ring-of-fire
pattern like we are expecting.
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4 hours ago, cyclone77 said:

Yeah it sure does.  Has 105 degree heat for southeast Iowa next Wednesday lol.  

EDIT:  Interesting disco from DVN.  Either very hot, or very stormy depending on where the ROF largely sets up..


...The
NAM/GFS/GEM all are slightly farther west with the high pressure
ridge axis, and the corresponding edge of mid level heat. For that
reason, they are exceptionally stormy over our CWA for Sunday PM
through next weekend. The GFS keeps us in the battle zone with the
main 850mb heat dome only briefly into eastern Iowa Wednesday before
another backdoor cool front drops in for late week.

The pattern synoptically supports nightly strong MCS, with
progressive wind damage threats and training heavy rain threats. As
to whether this directly impacts out CWA or not cannot be certain
for several days.  The large scale differences are problematic,
given that they are not apparently due to convective feedback or
other easily diagnosed issue. The EC is just a shift in longitude
east with the same pattern as the GFS, but that forecast is
substantially hotter and drier than the GFS  deterministic forecast.
In any case, hot and humid weather be a certainty this upcoming
week, as both patterns support dewpoints of 70 to 75, and given a
boundary in the area, it could support dewpoints in near 80 this
time of the year. Combine that with temperatures in the upper 80s to
lower 90s, and we could have a forecast that will either tip towards
flooding, or dangerous heat. While that seems unusual, to have a
forecast seem a binary, it is actually normal for a ring-of-fire
pattern like we are expecting.

This is anecdotal but with this type of setup it seems like when convection has any excuse to blunt the north/east expansion of higher end heat, it often does so, unless you can establish overwhelming capping.  We'll have to see how this one works out.

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Why does the GFS have such a severe cold bias, serious question... is it just some sort of computing error or having sampling issues?

It's been like this for years and the upgrades don't seem to be helping.

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45 minutes ago, CCM said:

Why does the GFS have such a severe cold bias, serious question... is it just some sort of computing error or having sampling issues?

It's been like this for years and the upgrades don't seem to be helping.

It tends to undermix the boundary layer, resulting in lower 2m temps and higher dewpoints than what verifies.  As for why it tends to do that, beats me.

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2 hours ago, Hoosier said:

It tends to undermix the boundary layer, resulting in lower 2m temps and higher dewpoints than what verifies.  As for why it tends to do that, beats me.

Tends to undermix the mid levels with water loading the column as well.

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Maybe worth creating a dedicated thread for this upcoming stretch? Large scale pattern is quite favorable for multiple rounds and likely across the subforum, starting with later Sunday-Sunday night through Monday-Monday night.

With a persistent huge CAPE reservoir and likelihood of enhanced northwest mid-level flow associated with any stronger shortwaves, this appears to be one of the better extended stretches of potential for a larger area in recent years.

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39 minutes ago, RCNYILWX said:

Maybe worth creating a dedicated thread for this upcoming stretch? Large scale pattern is quite favorable for multiple rounds and likely across the subforum, starting with later Sunday-Sunday night through Monday-Monday night.

With a persistent huge CAPE reservoir and likelihood of enhanced northwest mid-level flow associated with any stronger shortwaves, this appears to be one of the better extended stretches of potential for a larger area in recent years.

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Here ya go

 

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28 minutes ago, Indystorm said:

Certainly not in our area but I think it noteworthy that this Sat, evening the Fairbanks Alaska NWS has been issuing some t storm warnings for golf ball size hail.

Interesting.  Alaska isn't even on the SPC storm report map.

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Certainly not in our area but I think it noteworthy that this Sat, evening the Fairbanks Alaska NWS has been issuing some t storm warnings for golf ball size hail.


Not everyday you see this...

That far north, westward motion, and cloud tops near 50kft for a time. Legit.

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Images from those storms near Delta Junction, AK

I mean, that's normal right? Seriously, if I said those were from Wyoming no one would been shocked. Also they issued 6 total warnings with some verification a few gusts at/over 58mph.

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This is a big IF but if cloud debris isn't an issue around here on Wednesday, then thermal fields (850/925 mb temps) would support mid to perhaps upper 90s with nearly full sun.  Pretty high dews as well.  I would be more conservative for now though.

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