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June 2017 Observations & Discussions Thread


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29 minutes ago, Juliancolton said:

Hopefully we get some dry and clear periods for the upcoming new moon cycle. Milky Way photography season has been a bust thus far with the seemingly constant unsettled wx.

Wouldn't count on it. Even the Euro is stormy after day 5.

The Euro also has the tropical system in the Western Caribbean day 10.

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33 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

Wouldn't count on it. Even the Euro is stormy after day 5.

The Euro also has the tropical system in the Western Caribbean day 10.

Euro has less than an inch of rain for most here through day 10 unless you are well well N and W.    

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7 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

No need to get detailed five+ days out, it's a stormy look though.

I think alot of it will come down to where the trough sets up.   We also have quickly drying ground east of the Rockies which could be a source region for heat depending on the flow.  Everything's on the table at this point.   Some models show the trough over the lakes which could keep us out of the big heat, but we'd have a SW flow of milder air and perhaps T-storm chances etc.

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25 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

guess lga's highest min during the heat wave

81

that would be a record for any day except the 26th when the minimum at LGA was 84 in 1952...you could be right because average minimums are rising faster than the maximums...a sw wind blows over Brooklyn and Queens cement jungles before reaching the airport...building around the airport has been none stop for years...there are sky scrapers in Queens now...big heat island expansion...most of the LGA warmest minimums during the summer have occurred since 2000...

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14 minutes ago, uncle W said:

that would be a record for any day except the 26th when the minimum at LGA was 84 in 1952...you could be right because average minimums are rising faster than the maximums...a sw wind blows over Brooklyn and Queens cement jungles before reaching the airport...building around the airport has been none stop for years...there are sky scrapers in Queens now...big heat island expansion...most of the LGA warmest minimums during the summer have occurred since 2000...

The development in Long Island city has been nuts the last few years. Basically an eastward expansion on Manhattan 

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16 minutes ago, uncle W said:

that would be a record for any day except the 26th when the minimum at LGA was 84 in 1952...you could be right because average minimums are rising faster than the maximums...a sw wind blows over Brooklyn and Queens cement jungles before reaching the airport...building around the airport has been none stop for years...there are sky scrapers in Queens now...big heat island expansion...most of the LGA warmest minimums during the summer have occurred since 2000...

A new study shows the area near LGA as having the highest UHI in NYC. We should probably have a contest as to when LGA will have its first 90 degree minimum.

http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/aa6e59

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18 minutes ago, bluewave said:

A new study shows the area near LGA as having the highest UHI in NYC. We should probably have a contest as to when LGA will have its first 90 degree minimum.

http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/aa6e59

That would be scary but awesome to see. The high would be in the mid 100s at least with that minimum.

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59 minutes ago, bluewave said:

A new study shows the area near LGA as having the highest UHI in NYC. We should probably have a contest as to when LGA will have its first 90 degree minimum.

http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/aa6e59

Imagine that.    If we get big heat this summer that last 5 days or more, I could see an 86 there....

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6 hours ago, jets said:

Question will be by midweek whether that front to the north sneaks through or stays up in New England?

Latest models have this looking just like the short heatwave May 17-19. Sun-Tues will see 90's and the same type of backdoor cold front we have seen all spring arrives on Wed. So a continuation of the heat not being able to lock in pattern this spring. Longer range models have the trough returning back to the Great Lakes and East yet again. This is like the classic 2010's stagnant weather pattern that locks in for months at a time. Except this time it's a cooler version than the top 10 warmest months we have been used to.

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46 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Latest models have this looking just like the short heatwave May 17-19. Sun-Tues will see 90's and the same type of backdoor cold front we have seen all spring arrives on Wed. So a continuation of the heat not being able to lock in pattern this spring. Longer range models have the trough returning back to the Great Lakes and East yet again. This is like the classic 2010's stagnant weather pattern that locks in for months at a time. Except this time it's a cooler version than the top 10 warmest months we have been used to.

if the trough ends up over the lakes, we would still have a mild southwesterly flow.    Let's hope it's there and not over the east

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22 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

if the trough ends up over the lakes, we would still have a mild southwesterly flow.    Let's hope it's there and not over the east

The EPS has it over the GL at first and then eventually back into the East later on. If we keep getting these false starts with the heat this summer, we may be able to keep the 90 degree days under 30 at EWR and LGA. The 2010's average at EWR is 33 days.

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10 minutes ago, NutleyBlizzard said:

My main concern is  with a trough over the eastern US along with an upcoming active hurricane season, that could very well spell trouble for the east coast.

A bit early for that...by the time August comes there could be a massive ridge here...who knows.

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