tamarack Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 38 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Have any SNE climo sites ever hit 100F in May? That April 1976 temp Tamarack posted is nuts We were visiting family in NJ that Eastertime, and almost dying in the heat - so was our 1971 Beetle. It felt so good to return to Ft. Kent and find temps around 60 with still the odd pile of snow to be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said: Let's coc k out Summer was fun this year, short but fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Summer was fun this year, short but fun Verbatim that's 70ish for us. Like winter and December real summer typically waits until we're deeper into June. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 Just now, weathafella said: Verbatim that's 70ish for us. Like winter and December real summer typically waits until we're deeper into June. like I said before, men in suits taking pictures everywhere, should be awesome, june can often have many top ten days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Summer was fun this year, short but fun That's not a cold pattern. Dry NW Gypsy moth fliwflow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 Just now, Damage In Tolland said: That's not a cold pattern. Dry NW Gypsy moth fliwflow who said cold? its spring until further notice, we suit up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Ginx snewx said: who said cold? its spring until further notice, we suit up Would prefer big heat. Who needs the chamber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob40 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 47 minutes ago, weathafella said: Would prefer big heat. Who needs the chamber? Looks like the Chamber will be called into session for the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 hours ago, weathafella said: Would prefer big heat. Who needs the chamber? Office worker talk. Perfect weather for all, we COCadoodledewless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 6 hours ago, Ginx snewx said: Office worker talk. Perfect weather for all, we COCadoodledewless Lol....where's your similar talk when it's 14 in winter...construction continues. Extreme wx is why we're here. Heat is part of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Men Day weekend continues to look nice. 70's and tanning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 16 hours ago, Ginx snewx said: 850.00, 16.60 well short 20.4C GYX New May record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said: Men Day weekend continues to look nice. 70's and tanning I wouldn't go there yet. Some solutions still have some inclement wx part of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Outside chance of an official 3 day heatwave for BOS. We need another 16-17F and I think that may be doable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 hour ago, dendrite said: 20.4C GYX New May record Sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 hours ago, dendrite said: 20.4C GYX New May record That's surprising to me given the ground temps. I would have expected even warmer if there was +20s around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 11 hours ago, weathafella said: Would prefer big heat. Who needs the chamber? No way. I like the 70's look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 3 hours ago, dendrite said: 20.4C GYX New May record Their 95 is 3F above the previous hottest in May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 23 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: That's surprising to me given the ground temps. I would have expected even warmer if there was +20s around. Impressive across the region. GYX 20.4C ALB 20.0C CHH 19.4C CAR 19.0C !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, tamarack said: Their 95 is 3F above the previous hottest in May. The 93F at PWM is the warmest for so early in the season. I'm surprised they hadn't had warmer than 92F before this date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I don't think 850 mb were +20 ? at any time over the last three days so I'm a little confused there. heh, I didn't look at the verified soundings - Yesterday and the previous days over shot MOS by a couple few ticks; but that should be/have been expected. The MOS tech has a built in experience trust that requires successive occurrences under similar initial conditions ...and is thus, tuning over successive decades. Back in the day we learned, the default output of it's technology/interpretive algorithms do not contain particular aspects such as "local studies" in the base-line numbers. The way we learned in FAST, the basis are derived by classical adiabatic mathematics, then... after, modulated by past occurrences/climo, that given time, means they will assess under similar conditions. What all that means is that with the wind starting the day at WNW and RH lower than 40 % (such that yesterday dawned ... to mention the day before, too), with the initial condition of 850 mb temps in the 16 to 17 C range, in May with superb heating, the 2-meter temps may seem to violate those thermodynamic initial conditions but they don't - obviously. The difference is, as we get east of the elevations/topography, the "sigma" level drops out so you get a tick or two back in compression.. etc etc. That was all the way that work with MOS back in the 1990s ...I'm not sure the present day product is constructed using the same general method or whatever - someone else may know. But, I do still see even this spring so far, sunny days have been routine a minimum error on the + side of 0 bias. Some times as much as a full degree to multiple degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 4 hours ago, weathafella said: Outside chance of an official 3 day heatwave for BOS. We need another 16-17F and I think that may be doable. Aint happenin James Although it could be close. The race is on 84F at BOS at 11... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Aint happenin James Although it could be close. The race is on 84F at BOS at 11... Sadly you are probably right but it's not over yet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Typhoon Tip said: I don't think 850 mb were +20 ? at any time over the last three days so I'm a little confused there. heh, I didn't look at the verified soundings - Yesterday and the previous days over shot MOS by a couple few ticks; but that should be/have been expected. The MOS tech has a built in experience trust that requires successive occurrences under similar initial conditions ...and is thus, tuning over successive decades. Back in the day we learned, the default output of it's technology/interpretive algorithms do not contain particular aspects such as "local studies" in the base-line numbers. The way we learned in FAST, the basis are derived by classical adiabatic mathematics, then... after, modulated by past occurrences/climo, that given time, means they will assess under similar conditions. What all that means is that with the wind starting the day at WNW and RH lower than 40 % (such that yesterday dawned ... to mention the day before, too), with the initial condition of 850 mb temps in the 16 to 17 C range, in May with superb heating, the 2-meter temps may seem to violate those thermodynamic initial conditions but they don't - obviously. The difference is, as we get east of the elevations/topography, the "sigma" level drops out so you get a tick or two back in compression.. etc etc. That was all the way that work with MOS back in the 1990s ...I'm not sure the present day product is constructed using the same general method or whatever - someone else may know. But, I do still see even this spring so far, sunny days have been routine a minimum error on the + side of 0 bias. Some times as much as a full degree to multiple degrees. The numbers I posted were from the 00z soundings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 hours ago, dendrite said: The 93F at PWM is the warmest for so early in the season. I'm surprised they hadn't had warmer than 92F before this date. Kind of a semi-maritime climate, with the cool GOM nearly lapping at their obs site. Looking at their hottest days on record shows a distinct late-summer slant. They've had 5 triple-digit days and 5 at 99. Those ten included 3 in July and 7 in August. More than half of their 28 days at 97+ were in August, and July doesn't take the lead until one drops to 95+. Until yesterday, they had recorded just one day (94 on 5/21/21) prior to the 30th that topped 92. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, tamarack said: Kind of a semi-maritime climate, with the cool GOM nearly lapping at their obs site. Looking at their hottest days on record shows a distinct late-summer slant. They've had 5 triple-digit days and 5 at 99. Those ten included 3 in July and 7 in August. More than half of their 28 days at 97+ were in August, and July doesn't take the lead until one drops to 95+. Until yesterday, they had recorded just one day (94 on 5/21/21) prior to the 30th that topped 92. ...ha, I know what you mean tho. but ... I have argued in the past, particularly when the frustration of a locked in BD air mass is being choked off and left behind by a synoptic -scaled change that was ineffectual at carving the Atlantic cold sludge out of the region along the Coastal plain/above Long Island ...got to me, that: if one puts a ruler down on a map, and aligns it from NYC to PWM - all points S-E of that line are in a continental/Marine hybrid region. The power and most importantly ... the vulnerability to the power of the modulating influence of the Atlantic in that region (which pretty much is ALL of SNE save the NW zones) is too marked in our climate not to be imho - Days like yesterday are the continental days... Otherwise, I can even smell the ocean here at 40 miles inland as the crow flies in some scenarios... Warm fronts seemed to need more momentum/mechanics to actually succeed our region than the same system setup would in the plains, because we have a unique way of drawing in the oceans influence that negatively feeds back on warm boundary displacement. ...And it goes the other way in winter storms, too.. .sometimes, as much as we look for cold damming, CFs can erode enough inland to ruin that party too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 we might nick yet - it's bounced to 86 at FIT, BOS, SPF, HFD...etc... and BVY is even 88. It's one of those days where the coastal plain rocks the hottest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 it's notable anyway with records having fallen ...but, a 3-day official would impressive this early. It happens though... I wonder what the return rate is on heat of this ilk. The thing is, there's a difference in my mind between 88 to 92 type early heat ... compared to big heat, 97 type numbers. i guess that's why 'standard deviation' has any meaning - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 29 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Wow That map only shows the days departure, not the months. The past couple of days only moved my average temp from coldest May average to 6th coldest May since 1985. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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