HIPPYVALLEY Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said: Sping!!! I am supposed to be at a workshop in Newton, MA Saturday morning at 9:30 AM and the earliest I can leave is tomorrow after 7 PM. Me thinks I have to bail since I was also dropping the boy at grandma and grandpa's house in Chelmsford. It's one thing to risk my azz but never the kid. Rt 2 out this way can be challenging in ideal weather. i'm feeling a vibe for 6-8" of cement in Greenfield. Genny, Genny who can I turn to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 minute ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: I am supposed to be at a workshop in Newton, MA Saturday morning at 9:30 AM and the earliest I can leave is tomorrow after 7 PM. Me thinks I have to bail since I was also dropping the boy at grandma and grandpa's house in Chelmsford. It's one thing to risk my azz but never the kid. Rt 2 out this way can be challenging in ideal weather. i'm feeling a vibe for 6-8" of cement in Greenfield. Genny, Genny who can I turn to? Yep, I still like my 5-10'' of cement call for the Rt 2 area and north. Don't see any reason to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Just now, JC-CT said: Nobody cares if you post the NAM. It's the ECMWF products they freak about, because it isn't publicly accessible. And those products are including sleet and all sorts of mixed precip too. The NAM snow maps are terrible in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 The latest 3km WRF that came out at 18z bombs Boston area/suburbs and NE Mass. That's a change from its 12z run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Hey Tip-get a load of 18Z FOUS! That's a ton of snow at BOS with big wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 The 3km NAM is colder than the 12km NAM as well, FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Just now, powderfreak said: And those products are including sleet and all sorts of mixed precip too. The NAM snow maps are terrible in that regard. The NAM on Tropical Tidbits says I'm getting 20", my local meteorologist says I'm getting an inch of slush...I just don't know who to believe. I'll probably just split the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, powderfreak said: The latest 3km WRF that came out at 18z bombs Boston area/suburbs and NE Mass. That's a change from its 12z run. Eastern Mass winter continues. Just shoot me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem81 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Just now, JC-CT said: The NAM on Tropical Tidbits says I'm getting 20", my local meteorologist says I'm getting an inch of slush...I just don't know who to believe. I'll probably just split the difference. Guys, I am from NYC so dont really have a bias here (I am a mets fan). Looking at TT maps is very deceiving (NYC learned the hard way last storm). It has almost 20 inches of SN failing in BOS after 850 temps go above 0 at around 0Z Sat... Doesnt make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Looks like the CCB mostly gets S NH this run. Did the euro have that getting up into CNE? I'm trying to figure out where the higher end QPF is coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, DomNH said: Yep, I still like my 5-10'' of cement call for the Rt 2 area and north. Don't see any reason to change. A little more, maybe, for the elevation crowd but I think that is a good range to stick with. Moving it is not going to be fun and my back is already a little cranky this week from the brewery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 The GFS will probably come in with a torch run now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 minute ago, mikem81 said: Guys, I am from NYC so dont really have a bias here (I am a mets fan). Looking at TT maps is very deceiving (NYC learned the hard way last storm). It has almost 20 inches of SN failing in BOS after 850 temps go above 0 at around 0Z Sat... Doesnt make any sense. Because it counts anything that is sleet or mix as snow. We are joking around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 Just now, HIPPYVALLEY said: A little more, maybe, for the elevation crowd but I think that is a good range to stick with. Moving it is not going to be fun and my back is already a little cranky this week from the brewery. Agreed. 6-10" here is likely. Hoping a foot. Hoping for power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 minute ago, dendrite said: Looks like the CCB mostly gets S NH this run. Did the euro have that getting up into CNE? I'm trying to figure out where the higher end QPF is coming from. I don't think it was the CCB but maybe... it looked more like a rotting deformation band or something. As the H7 low tightened up it dropped like another inch of QPF from the western Adirondacks through central VT and NH. It was removed from the main area of heavier precip further south so I thought maybe it was some mid-level banding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem81 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 minute ago, JC-CT said: Because it counts anything that is sleet or mix as snow. We are joking around. It looks to do even more than that. The 3K NAM map has almost 5-6 inches of Snow for the north shore of LI... (oh yeh, and 14 right across LI sound at Bridgeport. I dont think there will be any sleet or mix there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Yeah that whole sleet argument isn't entirely correct. I'm pretty sure I'm raining when the NAM is counting it as sleet. So the algorithms must be off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, moneypitmike said: Eastern Mass winter continues. Just shoot me. There is definitely some weird stuff going on in some of the modeling with regards to qpf for all of W MA. I wouldn't sweat it until we see what things look like tomorrow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstorm Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, JC-CT said: The NAM on Tropical Tidbits says I'm getting 20", my local meteorologist says I'm getting an inch of slush...I just don't know who to believe. I'll probably just split the difference. beware the *Includes Sleet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 minute ago, SouthCoastMA said: Yeah that whole sleet argument isn't entirely correct. I'm pretty sure I'm raining when the NAM is counting it as sleet. So the algorithms must be off. They could even be counting any level in the column under 0.5C (33F) as snow. It's tough to say what these guys are doing. That's why the maps are generally useless. Stick to QPF and just apply a reasonable ratio in your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstorm Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, moneypitmike said: Eastern Mass winter continues. Just shoot me. stop, just stop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Agreed. 6-10" here is likely. Hoping a foot. Hoping for power You look good for a foot. MPM did something after October 2011 to forever curse Franklin and M Berkshire County from ever jack potting again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, moneypitmike said: Eastern Mass winter continues. Just shoot me. Aren't you in the 10"+ zone there just south of the VT border and just west of the River? Just shoot me seems a little much for a prog that's giving you 7-14" lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, SouthCoastMA said: Yeah that whole sleet argument isn't entirely correct. I'm pretty sure I'm raining when the NAM is counting it as sleet. So the algorithms must be off. You might be raining, but I'm guessing you are looking at the ptype algorithm to determine that. It is probably seeing some part of the column below zero between 700 and the surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I just want to avoid taint. I know I'll flip back to +SN and still rack up totals, but I think years of being on this board and Eastern has conditioned me to have such an adverse reaction to the sound of sleet...more than any reasonable human being should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 You guys should get away from tropical tidbit maps and use the Pivotal ones, For a clown map they don't seem to include sleet in there's and have found them to be better in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, DomNH said: I just want to avoid taint. I know I'll flip back to +SN and still rack up totals, but I think years of being on this board and Eastern has conditioned me to have such an adverse reaction to the sound of sleet...more than any reasonable human being should have. Taint, some us know where the term origins, some don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Just now, Ginx snewx said: Taint, some us know where the term origins, some don't lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 ban the clowns, ish is garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 minute ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: ban the clowns, ish is garbage. Eh, That's what makes it entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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