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Tn Valley Severe Weather 2017


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If the 2nd line does develop though east of the Ms River though,could be some supercells develop west of Nashville with diurnal heating,SREF shows some 45% supercells late in the afternoon as the SPC mentions above

 

 

ssippi Valley to western slopes of the Appalachians...
   Taking into account the preceding discussion, uncertainties seem too
   large to allow for more than an outlook of a categorical slight risk
   at the present time.  But given the strength of the synoptic system
   and associated wind fields, and at least a corridor of pre-frontal
   boundary layer moisture characterized by surface dew points in the
   mid 60s to near 70F, it may not be out of the question that a window
   of opportunity for considerable severe weather potential could
   develop this afternoon and evening.  This seems mostly likely to be
   focused near or just east of the Mississippi Valley, and mostly in
   the wake of an initial north/south oriented band or two of
   thunderstorms spreading east of the Mississippi Valley, where
   guidance appears suggestive that breaks in the overcast could allow
   insolation to contribute to at least pockets of mixed layer CAPE on
   the order of 1000-2000 J/kg.  Of particular concern is that the
   environment could become conducive to at least isolated to widely
   scattered long lived discrete supercell development, initially
   anywhere from portions of eastern Missouri into Illinois, southward
   through portions of western Kentucky and Tennessee into northern
   Mississippi.  In the presence of clockwise curved low-level
   hodographs characterized by strong to extreme shear, some of these
   could become capable of producing strong tornadoes.

 

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Mesoscale Discussion 0614
   NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
   0121 PM CDT Sun Apr 30 2017

   Areas affected...northeast Alabama...northwest Georgia...middle
   Tennessee into extreme southern Kentucky

   Concerning...Severe potential...Watch likely 

   Valid 301821Z - 301915Z

   Probability of Watch Issuance...80 percent

   SUMMARY...Threat for isolated damaging wind and a couple of
   tornadoes is expected to increase this afternoon over middle
   Tennessee into southern Kentucky. Also additional storms farther
   west across north central AL should eventually move into northeast
   AL and northwest GA. A ww will likely be issued downstream from ww
   182 prior to 19Z.

   DISCUSSION...Early this afternoon a band of convection extends
   across the western portions of middle TN with more organized
   activity farther south into northern AL. The downstream atmosphere
   is only marginally unstable with widespread clouds slowing diabatic
   warming of the boundary layer. Nevertheless, as temperatures slowly
   warm through the 80s F MLCAPE from 500-1000 J/kg will become
   sufficient to support at least a modest threat for organized storms
   given strengthening deep-layer, unidirectional winds, 30-40 kt
   effective bulk shear, and around 200 m2/s2 0-1 km storm relative
   helicity based on current storm motions. The convection is expected
   to gradually increase or maintain intensity as it develops east next
   few hours. Storms may organize with embedded meso-vortices and
   bowing segments posing a risk for isolated damaging wind and a
   couple of tornadoes.
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Low level shear was excellent on Sunday but deep shear was pretty unidirectional. Friday was a colossal waste of CAPE and lifting boundary, but with the awful cap and rising heights. Warm air aloft rushed in with the same efficiency as in winter, lol!

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3 hours ago, nrgjeff said:

Low level shear was excellent on Sunday but deep shear was pretty unidirectional. Friday was a colossal waste of CAPE and lifting boundary, but with the awful cap and rising heights. Warm air aloft rushed in with the same efficiency as in winter, lol!

Waste of a storm indeed,could have been worse .Sad news is all the lives lost.:(

 

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...NWS DAMAGE SURVEY FOR 05/12/17 TORNADO EVENT SHADY VALLEY TN

.SHADY VALLEY TORNADO...

Rating:                 EF-0
Estimated Peak Wind:    80 mph
Path Length /Statute/:  0.15 miles or 250 yards
Path Width /Maximum/:   40 yards
Fatalities:             0
Injuries:               0

Start Date:             05/12/2017
Start Time:             02:30 PM EDT
Start Location:         Unincorporated Town Of Shady Valley TN
Start Lat/Lon:          36.5211/-81.9314

End Date:               05/12/2017
End Time:               02:38 PM EDT
End Location:           Unincorporated Town Of Shady Valley TN
End Lat/Lon:            36.5208/-81.9291

Survey Summary: This was a very small and brief tornado that
remained on the ground for less than 8 minutes and 250 yards while
causing widespread roof damage to two homes, as well as completely
destroying two sheds and a carport structure. Everyone interviewed
stated that the system was rain shielded thereby not allowing anyone
an opportunity to witness it. Storm moved almost due east dropping
out of the Holston Mountains and into the valley floor below where
the  brief EF-0 spun up before falling apart into a straight line
wind event with estimated winds of 50-70 mph for another 1/4 mile.
The straight line winds also caused some minor roof damage as well
as completely destroying an aging barn.

Talk about unexpected.

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On 5/20/2017 at 9:35 AM, nrgjeff said:

Decent tornado if 250 yards wide for 8 minutes. Remember average time OTG is only 10 minutes. Their language downplays it I suppose because it's only EF-0. Seems unchasable given witnesses all say hidden in rain. Glad nobody hurt!

Was out of town but monitoring radar when the warning was issued. Velocity showed a definitive couplet for 5-6 scans prior to warning issuance. Looks like touchdown occurred roughly 10 min after the warning. Per reflectivity, it was certainly wrapped in rain. 

Side note: I have clients in the Mountain City community. After the 2011 EF2, they're terrified of strong storms. Ominous clouds all scream "tornado" to them. Hate that another tornado struck there.

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Mesoscale Discussion 0824
   NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
   0641 AM CDT Wed May 24 2017

   Areas affected...Northeast Alabama...eastern Tennessee...northwest
   Georgia...eastern Kentucky

   Concerning...Severe potential...Watch possible 

   Valid 241141Z - 241415Z

   Probability of Watch Issuance...40 percent

   SUMMARY...Storms should continue to gradually develop through the
   morning and early afternoon, with an isolated tornado, strong wind
   gusts and marginal hail possible.

   DISCUSSION...Storms are beginning to intensify ahead of a strong
   vort max aloft. Although instability is weak, it may be sufficient
   for at least isolated severe storms given cooling aloft and strong
   lift with deepening surface low. Visible satellite imagery shows
   extensive cloudiness is present downstream of these storms, which
   may temper their severity somewhat. However, as storms lift
   northeastward out of Alabama and across Tennessee and into Kentucky,
   some diurnal intensification is expected. Trends will continue to be
   monitored for a possible watch.
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Check of the 12Z Nam shows the LLJ pushing east to Chattanooga and Nashville by midday. It might still be present in the eastern Valley, TYS to MRX and TRI, later today. Upper pattern has a little VBV, but a decent LLJ would create more than adequate turning with height. East Kentucky could be interesting right east of the surface low, but oh that terrain LOL.

ATMO is getting overturned and the main show is to our southeast. Well, they said that in Kansas Saturday and a mesocyclone lasted two hours behind the CF with multiple brief tornado touchdowns. We're not in Kansas, but it is still late May...

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URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
   Tornado Watch Number 264
   NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
   115 PM EDT Wed May 24 2017

   The NWS Storm Prediction Center has issued a

   * Tornado Watch for portions of 
     central and eastern Kentucky
     western North Carolina
     eastern Tennessee
     southwestern Virginia

   * Effective this Wednesday afternoon and evening from 115 PM
     until 800 PM EDT.

   * Primary threats include...
     A couple tornadoes possible
     Isolated damaging wind gusts to 70 mph possible
     Isolated large hail events to 1.5 inches in diameter possible

   SUMMARY...Thunderstorms now forming near an upper disturbance over
   northern middle Tennessee are expected to increase in coverage and
   intensity through the remainder of the afternoon, while developing
   northeastward and eastward across the watch area.  Large hail and
   locally damaging wind gusts will be possible in strongest storms,
   along with a risk for tornadoes.

   The tornado watch area is approximately along and 105 statute miles
   north and south of a line from 40 miles west northwest of Crossville
   TN to 40 miles southeast of Jackson KY. For a complete depiction of
   the watch see the associated watch outline update (WOUS64 KWNS
   WOU4).
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Slight chance (risk) of anything interesting in Tennessee on Thursday. Models continue to settle on a solution of one or two MCS(s) with some straight line wind potential. It will be nothing like May 27. Derecho checklist is not met Thursday. WAA is missing at 850/700 mb. Height falls are not great enough at 500 mb. Speed lacks at 200 mb. Do not need much, but this is pathetic June gloom, lol.

Road to a better set-up might be a CIV (convectively induced vort max) coming out of the Plains or Mississippi Valley overnight. Otherwise I think 1-2 MCSs seems reasonable given the instability and boundaries left over from previous rain. If CAMs converge on a more likely corridor ENH risk for straight winds would not surprise me. I cannot see anything higher though. On the flip side there is a road to Marginal. Too much midday convection ahead of any MCS would stabilize/overturn the atmosphere, #2017ing in some circles.

Morning update: And sure enough 2017ing. Rain from Nebraska to South Carolina. Hopefully it is not the case August 21.

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On 6/14/2017 at 11:49 AM, nrgjeff said:

Slight chance (risk) of anything interesting in Tennessee on Thursday. Models continue to settle on a solution of one or two MCS(s) with some straight line wind potential. It will be nothing like May 27. Derecho checklist is not met Thursday. WAA is missing at 850/700 mb. Height falls are not great enough at 500 mb. Speed lacks at 200 mb. Do not need much, but this is pathetic June gloom, lol.

Road to a better set-up might be a CIV (convectively induced vort max) coming out of the Plains or Mississippi Valley overnight. Otherwise I think 1-2 MCSs seems reasonable given the instability and boundaries left over from previous rain. If CAMs converge on a more likely corridor ENH risk for straight winds would not surprise me. I cannot see anything higher though. On the flip side there is a road to Marginal. Too much midday convection ahead of any MCS would stabilize/overturn the atmosphere, #2017ing in some circles.

Morning update: And sure enough 2017ing. Rain from Nebraska to South Carolina. Hopefully it is not the case August 21.

Nothing much happened here.Some winds maybe 20-30.Some nice rain though with numerous lightning strikes around.Wind shear was weak as you mentioned.

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Cindy keeps severe hope alive. From SPC Day 2 valid Thursday:

...ArkLaMiss and surrounding region... 
   Models indicate a zone of stronger low and deep-layer shear will
   spread north in association with the migration of the northeast
   quadrant of Cindy---resulting in a conditional risk for mini
   supercells capable of isolated tornadoes.  Models vary
   considerably but some convection-allowing model guidance indicates
   cellular storms developing within a corridor of 500-1250 J/kg MLCAPE
   with enlarged hodographs.  A couple of tornadoes are possible with
   the stronger/more persistent low-level mesocyclones.  

I agree with the outside risk for something more than typical mini-sups with tropical systems. If clouds break up in Mississippi, as forecast between the cyclone and the slug of moisture into Alabama, instability will verify. Much of the wind shear is of course the LLJ, and it is somewhat unidirectional above. However NWP hints a just a bit of veering at the upper levels. If the upper levels can veer 30-40 degrees from the LLJ, hodographs would elongate. We'll see if all this happens. NWP may be allowing too much influence from the upper level westerlies to the north. If NWP is right though, Thursday could indeed feature a couple real mesocyclones.

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Cindy was a total loss up here. Birmingham tornado had decent contrast Thursday, for a tropical grungefest. Friday was lining up well in Alabama, but of course 2017'ed into Tenn.

Oh Comcast! Thank God we have EPB Fiber from our local power company. Tennessee legislature needs to stop blocking more municipal fiber projects. City's rights!

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Narrow, weak squall line formed as the foremost portion of rain moved through Friday evening. No thunder, just enhanced winds (gusts 40+). Looked like half of the Bluegrass State was under a FFW at one point. 

 

Re: internet, my parents reside in Erwin, TN, where the local utility is rolling out gig fiber service. Prior to this, Comcast was the only game in town. Think I have finally convinced them to ditch Comcast and switch...

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 Day 3 Convective Outlook  
   NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
   0221 AM CDT Tue Aug 29 2017

   Valid 311200Z - 011200Z

   ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS THE
   TENNESSEE/MISSISSIPPI/ALABAMA REGION AND VICINITY...

   ...SUMMARY...
   Risk for a couple of tornadoes will likely persist Friday across
   parts of the central Gulf Coast states and into the Tennessee
   Valley, in association with tropical system Harvey.

   ...Synopsis...
   The western ridge/eastern trough upper pattern is forecast to become
   temporarily disturbed, as a short-wave trough crossing the northern
   Intermountain region begins to dig southeast into the Plains, while
   at the same time Harvey shifts slowly northeast across the lower
   Mississippi -- and later the Tennessee -- Valleys.  Otherwise, a
   cold front is forecast to move east across the Northeast/New England
   and south across the Ohio Valley and central Plains region.

   ...Tennessee/Mississippi/Alabama and parts of surrounding states...
   As tropical system Harvey continues moving slowly northeast across
   the lower Mississippi Valley toward the Tennessee Valley area while
   gradually weakening, low-level shear within the northeast quadrant
   of the broad low-level circulation will remain sufficiently strong
   to support risk for a few tornadoes.  Risk should shift gradually
   northeast in conjunction with Harvey's motion, away from the coast
   and eventually spreading into the Mid South region.
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Wednesday through Friday high low level helicity will present the risk for isolated tornadoes. SPC is right that Wednesday lapse rates may be a little weak. 12Z NAM amps up Thursday, but it is the NAM. Friday disco is above.

Tropical cyclones don't have fronts, is a myth over land. Harvey will interact with the left overs of a boundary that will lift from the Gulf Coast. These low dewpoints are nice, unless the retreating boundary goes ape crazy Thursday. More likely it'll be a slop fest with only a couple tornadoes. This is still Dixie. However the helicity and low level shear will be there.

Previous tropical system produced in Alabama and Tennessee. This one may be similar. One thing slightly more potent here is the true retreating boundary. Progs have 850 down to surface more backed. However, the cyclone will be a week old which should mitigate the above.

Hopefully I'm here tomorrow to discuss. Had to drop the hammer in Southeast, but it was justified. :popcorn:

 

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1 hour ago, nrgjeff said:

Wednesday through Friday high low level helicity will present the risk for isolated tornadoes. SPC is right that Wednesday lapse rates may be a little weak. 12Z NAM amps up Thursday, but it is the NAM. Friday disco is above.

Tropical cyclones don't have fronts, is a myth over land. Harvey will interact with the left overs of a boundary that will lift from the Gulf Coast. These low dewpoints are nice, unless the retreating boundary goes ape crazy Thursday. More likely it'll be a slop fest with only a couple tornadoes. This is still Dixie. However the helicity and low level shear will be there.

Previous tropical system produced in Alabama and Tennessee. This one may be similar. One thing slightly more potent here is the true retreating boundary. Progs have 850 down to surface more backed. However, the cyclone will be a week old which should mitigate the above.

Hopefully I'm here tomorrow to discuss. Had to drop the hammer in Southeast, but it was justified. :popcorn:

 

Tell us how you really feel .Remind me not to ever piss you off :lol:

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