Jump to content
  • Member Statistics

    17,507
    Total Members
    7,904
    Most Online
    SnowHabit
    Newest Member
    SnowHabit
    Joined

Mid to Long Term Discussion 2017


buckeyefan1

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 10.2k
  • Created
  • Last Reply
1 hour ago, Cold Rain said:

Forget severe.  Either all the dynamics will go north and west as the system heads to the Lakes, or we'll be locked in with the wedge with low clouds and stratiform rain showers as the system reforms off the Mid Atlantic coast.

The dynamics go north, we get Shetleyed, as the front loses its umph, over the mountains and the drought ramps up to severe by July ! :(

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, mackerel_sky said:

The dynamics go north, we get Shetleyed, as the front loses its umph, over the mountains and the drought ramps up to severe by July ! :(

Here's what I think will happen...... All the fruit trees will bloom and then we will have a cold front that sweeps through with a hard freeze. I have seen this movie before. Heck some of the peach trees in upper SC are blooming already.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6z GFS says we may see frost/freezes on day 6 and then again on day 10. This is now a real threat with how warm it's been. I believe many of us may be one month ahead of schedule (bloomage wise). This would make any potential early April freeze so much more devastating.

 

In other news California looks to continue getting abundant precip. This is for the next two weeks and most of the totals in the mountains will be snow; ~ 130" (or more).

 

aaaa.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 hours ago, CAD_Wedge_NC said:

Here's what I think will happen...... All the fruit trees will bloom and then we will have a cold front that sweeps through with a hard freeze. I have seen this movie before. Heck some of the peach trees in upper SC are blooming already.

Trees need to schedule their blooming based on April sun angle and not February temperature; dumb trees.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, Moonhowl said:

Trees need to schedule their blooming based on April sun angle and not February temperature; dumb trees.

I'm in RIC visiting family and they are starting to bloom here.  That can't be good although GFS shows warm next 15 days so who knows maybe straight into spring for SE and MA.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, FallsLake said:

6z GFS says we may see frost/freezes on day 6 and then again on day 10. This is now a real threat with how warm it's been. I believe many of us may be one month ahead of schedule (bloomage wise). This would make any potential early April freeze so much more devastating.

 

In other news California looks to continue getting abundant precip. This is for the next two weeks and most of the totals in the mountains will be snow; ~ 130" (or more).

 

aaaa.jpg

Here just north of Nashville TN we are honestly about four weeks ahead of where we should be. Closer to Nashville all sorts of things are in bloom from Saucer Magnolias to Forsythia to Daffodils. Things that are not necessarily bloomers are also popping out, many of the non-blooming trees are putting out, the pines are starting to wake up. I really do not see anything in the near future to slow things down. If it is after two weeks then that could be a real issue as in two weeks things will be totally leafed out or close to it. Here is to hoping we just move right into Spring!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, weathertree4u said:

Here just north of Nashville TN we are honestly about four weeks ahead of where we should be. Closer to Nashville all sorts of things are in bloom from Saucer Magnolias to Forsythia to Daffodils. Things that are not necessarily bloomers are also popping out, many of the non-blooming trees are putting out, the pines are starting to wake up. I really do not see anything in the near future to slow things down. If it is after two weeks then that could be a real issue as in two weeks things will be totally leafed out or close to it. Here is to hoping we just move right into Spring!

I hope we do, but as we move into "real" spring the pattern waves will become shorter; meaning we'll eventually see some cold shots. The air up north is still winter cold so I fear bad things are going to happen, agriculturally wise, the next 2 months.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

36 minutes ago, mrdaddyman said:

This winter's goose is cooked:

eps_z500a_5d_noram_53.pnggefs_z500a_5d_noram_53.pngpcmc_z500a_7d_noram_53.png

What worries me is right now we know winters goose is cooked but, our goose is going to be fried if we continue to have 20+ degrees above normal temps heading into the summer season. I have to work outside alot and it was the worst I have ever seen last summer and don't want to even think that it could even be worse this year....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, mackerel_sky said:

If it was GFS day 2, I might bite!?

I totally understand. 18z will show something different. But, I still bet we'll get at least one or two more hard freezes before the middle of April. So many things are staring to bloom, that hard freezes are something that we shouldn't hope for; hence (knowing our luck) it will happen.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, FallsLake said:

I totally understand. 18z will show something different. But, I still bet we'll get at least one or two more hard freezes before the middle of April. So many things are staring to bloom, that hard freezes are something that we shouldn't hope for; hence (knowing our luck) it will happen.

Yeah, agreed 100%! We've wanted snow all winter and except for a 3 day fluke in January, it's basically been torch city! Now that we want it to stay warm and no crop damage, and it's too late basically for the cold to give us any snow, I could SE a mid 20s night peppered in through March and April!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, FallsLake said:

I totally understand. 18z will show something different. But, I still bet we'll get at least one or two more hard freezes before the middle of April. So many things are staring to bloom, that hard freezes are something that we shouldn't hope for; hence (knowing our luck) it will happen.

We probably will see a freeze again.  Even in 99 (nina), which was a torch winter, but not as warm as this winter, did have a week in mid-March that was very cold.  Actually had flakes in the area.  But, had some stout blocking.   Interestingly enough was also MJO phase 1-3 during this period.  

March as a whole for 99 was BN in the east, which I don't really see happening this March.

 

compday.PHuOlNVrTx.gif

 

199901.phase.90days.gif

Link to comment
Share on other sites

18 minutes ago, Cold Rain said:

Hard to get more boring weather than this.  What a disaster.

The big purple/whitish blob will probably move south in mid-March, just in time to freeze the dickens out of all of the plants that are about a month and a half ahead of schedule:

gfs_z500_mslp_nhem_53.png

If you would have told me after the 2004 winter we would only have one 6" event and no more 10" seasons through atleast 2017 I would have said no chance...LOL. 

Now trying to imagine a 2-4" snow event in the next few years seems impossible.  Let's hope I am wrong again.  

The warmth feels great but where our climate is headed, and not just with respect to winters/snow, is concerning.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, packbacker said:

If you would have told me after the 2004 winter we would only have one 6" event and no more 10" seasons through atleast 2017 I would have said no chance...LOL. 

Now trying to imagine a 2-4" snow event in the next few years seems impossible.  Let's hope I am wrong again.  

The warmth feels great but where our climate is headed, and not just with respect to winters/snow, is concerning.  

Strange thing is there has been cold air available. We just don't get blocking anymore. From what I've read (...can't list, been awhile), global warming / warming arctic can actually help blocking. I think we have multiple problems occurring.    

Link to comment
Share on other sites

18 minutes ago, packbacker said:

If you would have told me after the 2004 winter we would only have one 6" event and no more 10" seasons through atleast 2017 I would have said no chance...LOL. 

Now trying to imagine a 2-4" snow event in the next few years seems impossible.  Let's hope I am wrong again.  

The warmth feels great but where our climate is headed, and not just with respect to winters/snow, is concerning.  

Yeah...every time I see a map of ocean temps, I'm just astounded as to how much more area is covered by orange than blue.  I don't know of any way to empirically measure the intensity plus area of blue vs. orange, but anecdotally, it looks like the oceans are much warmer (on a net basis) than normal.  We're seeing ocean life die off at an alarming rate.  That is concerning from an ecosystem standpoint.  What is the critical point of deterioration in the ecosystem that will create a noticeable impact on human life?  If we're not there yet, we have to be getting close.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, packbacker said:

If you would have told me after the 2004 winter we would only have one 6" event and no more 10" seasons through atleast 2017 I would have said no chance...LOL. 

Now trying to imagine a 2-4" snow event in the next few years seems impossible.  Let's hope I am wrong again.  

The warmth feels great but where our climate is headed, and not just with respect to winters/snow, is concerning.  

 

Atlanta has gone I think 13 straight months of above average temperates and that doesn't look to stop going into March. Amazing. I truly hope we can have a cooler summer. I don't think I can handle another 2016-like Summer.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, Cold Rain said:

Yeah...every time I see a map of ocean temps, I'm just astounded as to how much more area is covered by orange than blue.  I don't know of any way to empirically measure the intensity plus area of blue vs. orange, but anecdotally, it looks like the oceans are much warmer (on a net basis) than normal.  We're seeing ocean life die off at an alarming rate.  That is concerning from an ecosystem standpoint.  What is the critical point of deterioration in the ecosystem that will create a noticeable impact on human life?  If we're not there yet, we have to be getting close.

What happened to the warm oceans = cold continents theory I heard so much about a few years back?? Seems to be correct! :(

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, LovingGulfLows said:

 

Atlanta has gone I think 13 straight months of above average temperates and that doesn't look to stop going into March. Amazing. I truly hope we can have a cooler summer. I don't think I can handle another 2016-like Summer.

I can almost guarantee they have never had a stretch of below normal months this long!? Hell, they've never had 6 months below normal! 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...