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Potential Hermine Impacts


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2 minutes ago, ForestHillWx said:

Trees are fully leafed out, as opposed to their general condition in a Noreaster. Some of the older maples, white pines, Bradford pears, that line the suburb streets, will act like sails on ship. Hopefully the ground can absorb the bulk of the rain, but if it hits too fast, flash flooding potential exists.

This storm, if as depicted, has disaster written all of over it. Especially on a holiday weekend.

I'm going shopping tonight, before the news really gets out. What hurts in grabbing 5-10 gallons of gas for the generator and a few gallons of Poland Spring. I will probably use them anyway.

Models right now are showing about 30mph max wind gusts for your area. But its never a bad idea to stock up.

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Keep in mind the 12z EURO highest sustained winds were assumed to be 69 mph  at landfall in 6 hours . Surface winds are already 75 with time to get stronger .

 

Do not be surprised with the 28c line just S of AC , that once this comes off OBX the models don`t have to play catch up again as it tightens back up . 

 

It will not take much for this to come 75 miles N and have the center E of Toms River and not Rohoboth beach . 

A long easterly fetch will def leave a mark from CNJ on S , but the S shore of LI will take a beating as well . 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, PB GFI said:

Keep in mind the 12z EURO highest sustained winds were assumed to be 69 mph in 6 hours . Surface winds are already 75 with time to get stronger .

 

Do not be surprised with the 28c line just S of AC , that once this comes off OBX the models don`t have to play catch up again as it tightens back up . 

 

It will not take much for this to come 75 miles N and have the center E of Toms River and not Rohoboth beach . 

A long easterly fetch will def leave a mark from CNJ on S , but the S shore of LI will take a beating as well . 

 

 

The easterly fetch creates a long shore current which slices up the south shore beaches like a hot knife through butter. It may be worse than the beach erosion seen further south. If thing spins, stalls, etc, then some south shore beaches may simply be gone, such as Robert Moses Field 5. Beach is already on its last legs, it cannot survive this.

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1 minute ago, Jason WX said:

TS watch for NJ

Yup. 

Tropical Storm Watch

DEZ003-004-MDZ024-025-NCZ102-NJZ013-014-020-022-023-024-025-026-
027-VAZ098-099-100-020300-
/O.NEW.KNHC.TR.A.1009.160901T2100Z-000000T0000Z/
400 PM CDT THU SEP 1 2016

DUCK-NC                             36.23N 75.77W
SANDY-HOOK-NJ                       40.46N 74.00W

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5 minutes ago, christhesnowman said:

NAM and every other recent model trend...I know you guys are bored waiting for winter, but this is a non event

 

Like ? 

 

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Cause this looks OTS right ? 

gfs-ememb_lowlocs_eus_14.png

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No , wait this one does... 

gfs-ememb_lowlocs_eus_14.png

 

 

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000
WTNT44 KNHC 012045
TCDAT4

HURRICANE HERMINE DISCUSSION NUMBER  18
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL       AL092016
400 PM CDT THU SEP 01 2016

Hermine was recently upgraded to a hurricane based on an
SFMR-observed surface wind from an Air Force Hurricane Hunter
aircraft.  The initial intensity is set at 65 kt based on that
observation.  Satellite images show that the cloud pattern continues
to gradually become better organized with more distinct curved bands
of showers and thunderstorms, although the system currently lacks
concentrated inner-core convection.  Hermine has a little more time
to strengthen, so the official forecast shows a slight additional
increase in intensity before landfall.  This is consistent with the
latest LGEM guidance.  Hermine is forecast to become extratropical
at 48 hours when the global models forecast it to become embedded
within a frontal zone.  Later in the forecast period,
vertical shear decreases and the cyclone could be situated over
marginally warm waters.  Therefore there is the possibility of the
system regaining some tropical characteristics in 4-5 days, although
this is speculative at this time.

Aircraft center fixes indicate that the motion remains 030/12 kt.
The flow on the eastern side of a mid-level trough over the
southeastern United States should cause Hermine to move
north-northeastward to northeastward with some increase in forward
speed during the next day so.  By 48 hours, the track guidance
shows the system slowing down as it begins to interact with a
mid-level cutoff vortex over the eastern United States.  In 3 days
or so, the post-tropical cyclone merges with the cutoff low and a
further slowing down of the motion is expected.  The official track
forecast lies between the latest GFS and ECMWF predictions.

KEY MESSAGES:

1. As landfall nears, it is important to not focus on the exact
forecast track.  Hermine is an extremely asymmetric storm, with a
large extent of dangerous winds, life-threatening storm surge, and
flooding rains well to the east and southeast of the path of the
center.

2. Hermine is expected to become a post-tropical cyclone while still
producing hazardous winds and storm surge over land.  NWS policy
allows NHC to write advisories on and issue tropical storm
watches and warnings for post-tropical cyclones, when the system
continues to pose a significant threat to life and property.
NHC and the NWS Eastern Region have decided that this option will be
invoked for Hermine.  After Hermine becomes a post-tropical cyclone,
NHC will continue to issue its full suite of advisory and warning
products for as long as the system remains a significant threat to
land.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT  01/2100Z 28.5N  85.0W   65 KT  75 MPH
 12H  02/0600Z 30.2N  83.9W   70 KT  80 MPH
 24H  02/1800Z 32.4N  81.6W   50 KT  60 MPH...INLAND
 36H  03/0600Z 34.5N  78.2W   45 KT  50 MPH...INLAND
 48H  03/1800Z 36.3N  75.0W   45 KT  50 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
 72H  04/1800Z 38.0N  72.5W   50 KT  60 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
 96H  05/1800Z 38.5N  71.5W   50 KT  60 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
120H  06/1800Z 39.5N  70.5W   45 KT  50 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
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After a long off period I'm back. Hermine does look interesting. Too me for the east coast it's how strong the high pressure in the Atlantic is. The front is currently weakening over the East. MY thinking that it will ride the weak boundary of the cold front.   then get pulled in(phased) by the  500 mb upper level low

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11 minutes ago, Rtd208 said:

With all due respect, then why do you fix the the core of the problem and get rid of the trolls?

Because until you start paying us, the mods arent here 24/7. I cant fix the problem and delete 2 pages worth of bs while busy with other stuff as well. Now back to the storm.

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49 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:



2. Hermine is expected to become a post-tropical cyclone while still
producing hazardous winds and storm surge over land.  NWS policy
allows NHC to write advisories on and issue tropical storm
watches and warnings for post-tropical cyclones, when the system
continues to pose a significant threat to life and property.
NHC and the NWS Eastern Region have decided that this option will be
invoked for Hermine.  After Hermine becomes a post-tropical cyclone,
NHC will continue to issue its full suite of advisory and warning
products for as long as the system remains a significant threat to
land.


Cool. That is the "Sandy" rule. Policy changed after NHC "wasn't allowed" to issue advisories and NHC products once Sandy transitioned to extra tropical. They had to hand off to the local NWS offices right as the thing was making landfall. First time I can remember seeing the new rule used anyway. 

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1 hour ago, PB GFI said:

 

Like ? 

 

ecmwf_z500_mslp_eus_4.png

 

Cause this looks OTS right ? 

gfs-ememb_lowlocs_eus_14.png

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No , wait this one does... 

gfs-ememb_lowlocs_eus_14.png

 

 

Umm yes all of those look OTS to me.  I'm not sure what all the hype is either unless it's purely about the beaches. I am worried about my families place in sea isle nj on a barrier island and a 970 hybrid low stalled just offshore will suck for beaches and coastal flooding but anyone more then a few miles inland expecting some exciting storm will probably be letdown when it's 2 days of breezy showery weather. Of course it bears watching in case guidance shifts but what is depicted now is not a big deal other then immediate coastal concerns. 

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13 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

Umm yes all of those look OTS to me.  I'm not sure what all the hype is either unless it's purely about the beaches. I am worried about my families place in sea isle nj on a barrier island and a 970 hybrid low stalled just offshore will suck for beaches and coastal flooding but anyone more then a few miles inland expecting some exciting storm will probably be letdown when it's 2 days of breezy showery weather. Of course it bears watching in case guidance shifts but what is depicted now is not a big deal other then immediate coastal concerns. 

They are not ots

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