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Yep. We had two decent events the 1st or 2nd week of December. I think a cutter changed the pattern after that, central nj was in the single digits that morning only to be raining by 8pm

that's the worst.  I remember as a kid thinking "no way can it rain, it's 7 degrees!"  Oh yes it can

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that's the worst.  I remember as a kid thinking "no way can it rain, it's 7 degrees!"  Oh yes it can

This happens all the time and why I completely discard the cold fetish that some people have on this board. The fact of the matter is, it all comes down the pattern and storm track as opposed to preceding airmass. 

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We had about a foot here in Edison I believe, the morning event greatly out performed the backside snows. I believe the forecast was for the backside to be the main show. It would be nice to get a CCB overhead dropping some huge amounts this winter.

I had a little over 12" in Bay Ridge while my parents got 16" in Dobbs Ferry on 2/14/14. The backside CCB only dropped 2-4" in most locales after a hellacious front end thump.

That is the last 12" event I have witnessed. Last winter was extremely cold, but the largest snowfall was 9" in Dobbs Ferry.

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Pretty much as gloomy as it gets right now. I really despise this time of year. Gray gloomy no more fall foliage to brighten things up and no chance at snow or cold.

For me the worst weather is a day like today just 15 degrees colder

I actually like days like this but only if the temperatures are still comfortable enough like today. Oh and some wind would be nice too.

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I guess I'm weird, I love this weather in the fall and winter.

Your weird. It's so dark at mid day I had to put the light on in the kitchen getting ready for work!!! The fact that it's fairly mild is helping though. Like I said 15 degrees colder would be awful. I personally love sun and the summer. But I am obsessed with snow too making real winter my second favorite

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Your weird. It's so dark at mid day I had to put the light on in the kitchen getting ready for work!!! The fact that it's fairly mild is helping though. Like I said 15 degrees colder would be awful. I personally love sun and the summer. But I am obsessed with snow too making real winter my second favorite

I don't mind summer as long as we get a few good severe wx events. This summer sucked for me.

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Spring, summer and fall all can go eat it for all I care. At this point winter can too the way it's looking. I mean come on its December 2nd and we haven't even had a flurry here in the city. That's embarrassing to tell anyone. And I don't see a flurry in the next 10 days! I have never been do disappointed from this El Niño. I remember the 97-98 El Niño we got a measly 5 inches of snow in March it was disgusting I just kept waiting and waiting and finally I got some, it was an early morning snowfall that honestly nobody in the media predicted so it was a surprise. The day before we had the snow we had a high of 34 with some ice and sleet combined with rain but no snow. At least we got some snow I'm sure we'll get some this year too but I'm so impatient that each day I check the models they look warmer and warmer. Hopefully this trends the other way. Take care my fellow weenies!

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We have actually seen an historic run of very snowy Decembers since 1995.

Just take a look at all the lackluster Decembers for snowfall in NYC between

1963 and 1995. 

 

The 2000's have alternated between historic snowy Decembers and mild ones

with very little snow. So it's easier to take a mild one with below normal snowfall

considering how impressive the last 20 years have been.

 

NYC 10" or greater snowfall Decembers since 1963:

 

1963...11.3"

1995...11.5"

2000...13.4"

2002...11.0"

2003...19.8"

2009...12.4"

2010...20.1"

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We have actually seen an historic run of very snowy Decembers since 1995.

Just take a look at all the lackluster Decembers for snowfall in NYC between

1963 and 1995. 

 

The 2000's have alternated between historic snowy Decembers and mild ones

with very little snow. So it's easier to take a mild one with below normal snowfall

considering how impressive the last 20 years have been.

 

NYC 10" or greater snowfall Decembers since 1963:

 

1963...11.3"

1995...11.5"

2000...13.4"

2002...11.0"

2003...19.8"

2009...12.4"

2010...20.1"

And 2005 had 9.7 and 2013 8.6. In some ways it makes it tougher because we've become accustomed to snowfalls before Christmas when during most of the 70s, 80s and 90s it was quite rare

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We have actually seen an historic run of very snowy Decembers since 1995.

Just take a look at all the lackluster Decembers for snowfall in NYC between

1963 and 1995.

The 2000's have alternated between historic snowy Decembers and mild ones

with very little snow. So it's easier to take a mild one with below normal snowfall

considering how impressive the last 20 years have been.

NYC 10" or greater snowfall Decembers since 1963:

1963...11.3"

1995...11.5"

2000...13.4"

2002...11.0"

2003...19.8"

2009...12.4"

2010...20.1"

Solid post!!! Really puts things in to perspective

I agree we have been super lucky. And we are due for a stinker. I just don't think it's this winter despite what's going on currently

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Spring, summer and fall all can go eat it for all I care. At this point winter can too the way it's looking. I mean come on its December 2nd and we haven't even had a flurry here in the city. That's embarrassing to tell anyone. And I don't see a flurry in the next 10 days! I have never been do disappointed from this El Niño. I remember the 97-98 El Niño we got a measly 5 inches of snow in March it was disgusting I just kept waiting and waiting and finally I got some, it was an early morning snowfall that honestly nobody in the media predicted so it was a surprise. The day before we had the snow we had a high of 34 with some ice and sleet combined with rain but no snow. At least we got some snow I'm sure we'll get some this year too but I'm so impatient that each day I check the models they look warmer and warmer. Hopefully this trends the other way. Take care my fellow weenies!

Move to Barrow then if all you want is winter. It's only "summer" there for a couple months out of the year and never hot.
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And 2005 had 9.7 and 2013 8.6. In some ways it makes it tougher because we've become accustomed to snowfalls before Christmas when during most of the 70s, 80s and 90s it was quite rare

 

 

Solid post!!! Really puts things in to perspective

I agree we have been super lucky. And we are due for a stinker. I just don't think it's this winter despite what's going on currently

 

The big story of the 70's and 80's Decembers was the record cold and lack of snow. NYC still hasn't seen

a single digit low during December since then. Even some of the coldest Decembers with exception of 1976

saw very little snow.

 

12/25/80 NYC low -1...last below zero reading in NYC during December......2.8" snow for the month 

12/25/83.................4.......................................................................................1.3"

1989........................four days with single digit lows and an historic -10.3 temperature departure....1.4" snow month

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We have actually seen an historic run of very snowy Decembers since 1995.

Just take a look at all the lackluster Decembers for snowfall in NYC between

1963 and 1995. 

 

The 2000's have alternated between historic snowy Decembers and mild ones

with very little snow. So it's easier to take a mild one with below normal snowfall

considering how impressive the last 20 years have been.

 

NYC 10" or greater snowfall Decembers since 1963:

 

1963...11.3"

1995...11.5"

2000...13.4"

2002...11.0"

2003...19.8"

2009...12.4"

2010...20.1"

 

Probably just anecdotal but growing up I remember Dec being not very snowy at all.  I generally don't have much expectation for significant snow in Dec until maybe the end of the month. If something gets my attention i'll track it but I never really banked on Dec snow for City and coast. Even in favorable patterns still mild water temps makes it a struggle. Every few years you get a good snowfall but that's what probably keeps the avgs respectable.  I remember alot more lightweight Decs. I'd be curious to see the median snowfall compared to the mean.

 

What I would like to see is snow events starting to show up to the N &W at least to give hope of it reaching the coast a little later in the season. Nothing on the horizon this yr. Its raining well into interior New England & Canada.

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We have actually seen an historic run of very snowy Decembers since 1995.

Just take a look at all the lackluster Decembers for snowfall in NYC between

1963 and 1995. 

 

The 2000's have alternated between historic snowy Decembers and mild ones

with very little snow. So it's easier to take a mild one with below normal snowfall

considering how impressive the last 20 years have been.

 

NYC 10" or greater snowfall Decembers since 1963:

 

1963...11.3"

1995...11.5"

2000...13.4"

2002...11.0"

2003...19.8"

2009...12.4"

2010...20.1"

December 10" or greater snowfalls...

Year....date....amount"...

1872...12/26.......18.0"

1912...12/24........11.4"

1916...12/15........12.7"

1933...12/26........11.2"

1947...12/26-27...26.4"

1948...12/19-20...16.0"

1959...12/21-22...13.7"

1960...12/11-12...15.2"

2000...12/30........12.0"

2003...12/5-6.......14.0"

2009...12/19-20...10.9"

2010...12/26-27...20.0"

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December 10" or greater snowfalls...

Year....date....amount"...

1872...12/26.......18.0"

1912...12/24........11.4"

1916...12/15........12.7"

1933...12/26........11.2"

1947...12/26-27...26.4"

1948...12/19-20...16.0"

1959...12/21-22...13.7"

1960...12/11-12...15.2"

2000...12/30........12.0"

2003...12/5-6.......14.0"

2009...12/19-20...10.9"

2010...12/26-27...20.0"

Wow 12/26 is a hot date for big snows. Funny how it's the day after not before Christmas

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