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Well, it looks very well like it is going to be the GGEM that scored the coup with it's weakest ULLs and opening up at H5. Funny to think that a model everyone was tossing will be more right than wrong. Even the Euro kind of failed as it had the second strongest look in the upper levels next to the GFS. So in conclusion, the GFS tail spins its way into a snow bank, the EURO falls face first after slipping on black ice and the NAM gained a smidge of respect back after it's Blizzard debacle. Well, no matter what I guess I'll be looking at the GGEM for the upper level setup more often. I actually do not know though if Clinch's convective feedback argument is correct because honestly if the H5 low came in stronger I would think a solution closer to the GFS would have happened. I am kind of curious as to why the GFS upper level progs were so off with this one compared to the GGEMs. Something to think back on for the future. Maybe with this new upgrade it has a bias of keeping ULLs too strong or failing to deduce strengthening or weakening at H5 with respect to Arctic S/Ws. Very interesting model details have come from this storm, which I think will help us with future storms like this one. 

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Snowfall totals are going to verify, and perhaps be higher in some places, if radar, what has fallen, and where the low seems to be ready to explode are any indication, particularly north of BOS. A few people will get extremely lucky. The couple people clogging this thread with the nonstop overly annoying gloom and doom will say they were correct because of where the low or convective bands or *anything* actually set up, but forecast wise, it's going to be a nice storm and the BOX map from earlier this morning is going to verify. Have fun y'all

im not sure ANYONE in the Boston area has a right to tell those who are getting fringed AGAIN about gloom and doom cluttering a thread. Its gonna be a nice storm for some places but remarkably pedestrian in other places that arent 200 pct of climo with three to four feet otg
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love watching the local mets still forecasting a foot of snow in central east nh???? "this is gonna be tough to measure with all the wind, but yeah,  you'll end up with a foot blown all over the place." Heck, they could forecast 2 ft of snow and use that excuse as to where the snow went all day long but im the guy watching it fall all night and can tell it isn't really snowing that hard.

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Well, it looks very well like it is going to be the GGEM that scored the coup with it's weakest ULLs and opening up at H5. Funny to think that a model everyone was tossing will be more right than wrong. Even the Euro kind of failed as it had the second strongest look in the upper levels next to the GFS. So in conclusion, the GFS tail spins its way into a snow bank, the EURO falls face first after slipping on black ice and the NAM gained a smidge of respect back after it's Blizzard debacle. Well, no matter what I guess I'll be looking at the GGEM for the upper level setup more often. I actually do not know though if Clinch's convective feedback argument is correct because honestly if the H5 low came in stronger I would think a solution closer to the GFS would have happened. I am kind of curious as to why the GFS upper level progs were so off with this one compared to the GGEMs. Something to think back on for the future. Maybe with this new upgrade it has a bias of keeping ULLs too strong or failing to deduce strengthening or weakening at H5 with respect to Arctic S/Ws. Very interesting model details have come from this storm, which I think will help us with future storms like this one. 

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How is the snow growth consistently getting worse as the overhead intensity on radar gets better?  wtf.

 

Down to microfine flour flakes.

 

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It's not sand, but it isn't great either. The good stuff is with the coastal front enhancement. It's getting better here though. DAW is down to 1/2SM.

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love watching the local mets still forecasting a foot of snow in central east nh???? "this is gonna be tough to measure with all the wind, but yeah,  you'll end up with a foot blown all over the place." Heck, they could forecast 2 ft of snow and use that excuse as to where the snow went all day long but im the guy watching it fall all night and can tell it isn't really snowing that hard.

It sure looks like it has been snowing in east central nh.  There must be at least 3 or 4 inches over there since we are already between 2 and 3 here.  The main storm hasn't deepened or moved up this way yet.  Are you confident that a foot is not happening?

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At 03z it has the low just off the NJ coast.  3 hours later at 06z the low is 100 mi E of Nantucket.  The low went 300 mi in 3 hours, lol.  Useless model.

There's multiple weak lows as the upper system hits the coastline. The one E of ACK will become the main low as the system strengthens.

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It's not sand, but it isn't great either. The good stuff is with the coastal front enhancement. It's getting better here though. DAW is down to 1/2SM.

I agree it is slowly looking better, slightly better snow growth and snow falling more thickly.  I've had 2.5 inches here, you?  Mildly optimistic in that as the dry slot moves up through SNE it seem to be starting to rotate a bit....maybe this keeps us snowing until the coastal deepens.  8 inches is my over under for a decent storm.  Glad I came home, it looks fantastic outside.  10.6

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Why do we get the band and ME misses it?

How does that work?

 

 

Well I'm not convinced they miss yet...but some runs are keying on almost a westward redevelopment of the ML centers that tucks SE of the Cape...so we're in a decent spot for it for a few hours as it deepens while ME is too far north in a sucker hole between the ML centers to our SE and the other area of forcing over by Nova Scotia...

 

At any rate, it's not an easy forecast, but I still think there's surprises with this one. My forecast has been 8-12" for ORH-east...so we'll see how it works out in the end.

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Well I'm not convinced they miss yet...but some runs are keying on almost a westward redevelopment of the ML centers that tucks SE of the Cape...so we're in a decent spot for it for a few hours as it deepens while ME is too far north in a sucker hole between the ML centers to our SE and the other area of forcing over by Nova Scotia...

 

At any rate, it's not an easy forecast, but I still think there's surprises with this one. My forecast has been 8-12" for ORH-east...so we'll see how it works out in the end.

Does it not look like the snow in ne mass, nh and s me is starting to pivot or rotate back a bit?

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Well I'm not convinced they miss yet...but some runs are keying on almost a westward redevelopment of the ML centers that tucks SE of the Cape...so we're in a decent spot for it for a few hours as it deepens while ME is too far north in a sucker hole between the ML centers to our SE and the other area of forcing over by Nova Scotia...

 

At any rate, it's not an easy forecast, but I still think there's surprises with this one. My forecast has been 8-12" for ORH-east...so we'll see how it works out in the end.

 

Will--do anticipate we'll get much more than another 1-3" when all is said and done?   I'm pretty much in that camp at this point. 

 

The funny (or sad) thing is that if I break 5", I get more than I did in the blizzard.  But, with the 5", the winter will climb to a solid 'C'.

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