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Pittsburgh/ Western PA Part III


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As always, a detailed forecast from Mr. Fries...


.NEAR TERM /THROUGH TUESDAY/...
...FAST MOVING ALBERTA CLIPPER TO DROP QUICK ACCUMULATING SNOWS
THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING...

A SHORT WAVE TROUGH WITH CANADIAN ORIGINS WILL QUICKLY SLIDE INTO
THE BASE OF THE LONG WAVE TROUGH OVER THE SOUTHERN MIDDLE ATLANTIC
STATES THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING. STRONG MODEL AGREEMENT EXISTS ON
THE LARGE SCALE LIFT PORTION OF THIS SYSTEMS TRAVERSING OF THE
AREA...WHICH GENERALLY PAINTS ONE TO TWO TENTHS OF LIQUID
EQUIVALENT ACROSS THE AREA...PARTICULARLY ALONG THE I-70 CORRIDOR.
THIS FOLLOWS NICELY ALONG THE BEST AXIS OF LOW LEVEL DEFORMATION
ALONG AND JUST TO THE NORTH OF THE TRACK OF THE SURFACE LOW.
ADDITIONALLY...THIS DEFORMATION COMBINED WITH WEAK WARM ADVECTION
AND THE UPWARD BRAND OF SOME MODEST FRONTOGENETICAL FORCING IN THE
850-700 MB LAYER AHEAD OF THE SYSTEM CO-LOCATE THE BEST FORCING
WITH THE BEST SATURATION IN THE DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE OF ROUGHLY
-12 TO -18C ALONG THE I-70 CORRIDOR OVERNIGHT INTO TUESDAY
MORNING. BUFKIT TIME-HEIGHT SECTIONS AND MODEL CROSS SECTIONS BOTH
REVEAL THIS TO BE THE CASE FROM THE NAM AND GFS...THOUGH THE GFS
DOES SEEM TO HAVE SOME DIFFICULTY MAINTAINING A COHERENT
FRONTOGENETICAL MAXIMA AS THE SYSTEM TRACKS THROUGH THE AREA. WITH
LITTLE SYNOPTIC REASON TO BELIEVE SAID MAXIMA WOULD JUST
MIRACULOUSLY DISSIPATE...A MORE CONTINUOUS VIEW IN CARRYING
SIMILAR PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS ACROSS THE SOUTHERN CWA SEEMS TO BE
THE MOST PLAUSIBLE SCENARIO...WHICH JIVES WELL WITH THE LOWER
LEVEL FIELDS OF THE NAM AND SREF FAIRLY WELL. THIS YIELDS SNOW TO
LIQUID RATIOS ACROSS THE I-70 CORRIDOR AND INTO THE SOUTHERN HALF
OF THE RIDGES OF AROUND 20 TO 1 THROUGH THE EARLY MORNING HOURS.
THIS SEEMS TO BE A FAIRLY EFFICIENT SNOW...SO THEREFORE A SWATH OF
3 TO 5 INCHES SEEMS LIKELY IN THIS AREA SIMPLY FROM THE SYSTEM
ITSELF.

FARTHER NORTH...COLDER AIR WILL REMAIN BETTER ENTRENCHED. AS A
RESULT...WITH A SIMILAR LIFTING PROFILE...THE BEST LIFT SEEMS
POISED TO BE ACTUALLY ABOVE THE DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE...AND MORE
IN THE -20 TO -30C LAYER. THIS WILL LIKELY YIELD A FAR LESS
EFFICIENT SNOWFALL. AS SUCH...FROM GENERALLY PITTSBURGH
NORTHWARD...SNOW EXPECTATIONS WERE TEMPERED...HOWEVER THE TIMING
OF THE SNOW STILL SEEMS QUITE PROBLEMATIC ENOUGH AROUND THE
MORNING RUSH THAT CONTINUING THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY SEEMS THE
BEST TACT FOR THE METRO AREA.

AFTER THE MAIN LARGE SCALE LIFT EXITS STAGE RIGHT ON TUESDAY
MORNING...THERMAL FIELDS QUICKLY SHIFT TO FEATURE A MUCH MORE
UNSTABLE BOUNDARY LAYER. THIS COUPLED WITH UNIDIRECTIONAL FLOW AND
A CRASHING DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE TOWARD THE RIDGE TOPS WILL LIKELY
LEAD TO A PERIOD OF ENHANCED UPSLOPE SNOWS FOR THE HIGHER
TERRAIN...ESPECIALLY LATE MORNING INTO THE AFTERNOON. WHILE THE
SATURATED LAYER SHOULD BE SHRINKING TOWARD THE SURFACE...THIS SEEMS
LIKELY TO BE OFFSET BY BETTER ICE MICROPHYSICS AND A MORE
EFFICIENT SNOW GROWTH HABIT. AS SUCH...UPSLOPE SNOWS IN THE RIDGES
WILL LIKELY YIELD SEVERAL MORE INCHES ONTO THE SNOWFALL FROM THE
SYSTEM ITSELF. AS A RESULT...TOTAL ACCUMULATION EXPECTATIONS FOR
THE HIGHER TERRAIN WERE INCREASED...PARTICULARLY IN TUCKER
COUNTY...WHERE THE BEST LARGE SCALE SNOW THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING
WILL DIRECTLY OVERLAY A MAXIMUM IN UPSLOPE POTENTIAL. FOR TUCKER
COUNTY...THE ADVISORY WAS UPGRADED TO WARNING...WHILE FOR ALL
OTHER RIDGE AREAS...ACCUMULATIONS WERE INCREASED TO VERY HIGH END
ADVISORY CRITERIA. FRIES

 

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Looking at the latest HRRR the snow starts around 2:00 am and the heaviest is between 3:00 and 6:00 am. Looks to be mostly done by 9:00 am. I am guessing we all see about 2 inches at the worst possible time for rush hour and we will see school delays. Then it will be over mid morning. Real quick start and end.

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WTAE had most of the snow exiting by 8AM with a good batch between 4 and 6. If that is true will morning rush be that effected? There may be slick spots, but snow should start to taper off by A.M rush right?

Looking at radar out west and some cams out near Cincy, roads are clear and radar isn't overly impressive right now.

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When I left for work this morning, the roads were pretty bad around Bethel. Not a lot of snow, maybe 1.5" if I were to guess, but just hit at a bad time. Even a half inch can mess things up if it hits at rush hour and temps are just in the teens. Things seem to be getting a little better now since the snow has let up.

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I ended up with about an inch in my back yard as well. Pretty much what I expected an on par with what the NWS had on the snow map. Still haven't had to touch a snow shovel though, it was so light and fluffy I just used a broom to quickly sweep the sidewalk off before heading to work. Roads were pretty slick, but passable with caution but did add about 20 minutes to my commute.

So about an inch and luckily it didn't affect my commute too much. From what I see, it looks like possible lake effect tomorrow?

 As for the LES, looks like our best shot in awhile per NWS:

 

.SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY/...
SNOW SHOWERS WILL MOVE BACK INTO THE AREA TONIGHT WITH THE ARCTIC
FRONT. COLDEST AIR OF THE SEASON WILL SETTLE IN BEHIND THE FRONT
ON WEDNESDAY AND WEDNESDAY NIGHT. A GOOD LAKE EFFECT/ENHANCED EVENT
IS SETTING UP FOR WEDNESDAY WITH A DUAL LAKE FETCH EXPECTED
WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.

 

That should allow for some decent bands to setup, but its like spinning the roulette wheel whether or not you get stuck under one to pick up any more than an inch or so outside of the higher elevations. At least we have some snow on the ground for the arctic chill. Nothing worse than bare ground and bitter cold temps.

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I said this last winter and will again. Everyone in pa should have to get have to get a mandatory inspection. It wasn't a lot of snow between 1.25 and 2" out here, but on my way from Ligonier to Greensburg I passed like 4 disabled vehicles and stopped for a car in a ditch by Kingston and the guys tires were bald.

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I ended up with about an inch in my back yard as well. Pretty much what I expected an on par with what the NWS had on the snow map. Still haven't had to touch a snow shovel though, it was so light and fluffy I just used a broom to quickly sweep the sidewalk off before heading to work. Roads were pretty slick, but passable with caution but did add about 20 minutes to my commute.

As for the LES, looks like our best shot in awhile per NWS:

.SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY/...

SNOW SHOWERS WILL MOVE BACK INTO THE AREA TONIGHT WITH THE ARCTIC

FRONT. COLDEST AIR OF THE SEASON WILL SETTLE IN BEHIND THE FRONT

ON WEDNESDAY AND WEDNESDAY NIGHT. A GOOD LAKE EFFECT/ENHANCED EVENT

IS SETTING UP FOR WEDNESDAY WITH A DUAL LAKE FETCH EXPECTED

WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.

That should allow for some decent bands to setup, but its like spinning the roulette wheel whether or not you get stuck under one to pick up any more than an inch or so outside of the higher elevations. At least we have some snow on the ground for the arctic chill. Nothing worse than bare ground and bitter cold temps.

Yes, I expect to get 6" inches of LES at my house in the highlands. Going to be amazing.

LES >>>> Clippers.

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WTAE had most of the snow exiting by 8AM with a good batch between 4 and 6. If that is true will morning rush be that effected? There may be slick spots, but snow should start to taper off by A.M rush right?

Looking at radar out west and some cams out near Cincy, roads are clear and radar isn't overly impressive right now.

Morning rush was slightly longer today .....

 

My 45 min commute from the North Hills to downtown took 2.5 hrs......

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Winter Weather Advisory


URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PITTSBURGH PA

1014 AM EST TUE JAN 6 2015

OHZ039>041-049-050-PAZ020-021-029-073-WVZ001-002-061800-

/O.CON.KPBZ.WW.Y.0001.000000T0000Z-150106T1800Z/

TUSCARAWAS-CARROLL-COLUMBIANA-HARRISON-JEFFERSON OH-BEAVER-

ALLEGHENY-WASHINGTON-WESTMORELAND-HANCOCK-BROOKE-

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...NEW PHILADELPHIA...CARROLLTON...SALEM...

CADIZ...STEUBENVILLE...BEAVER...PITTSBURGH METRO AREA...

WASHINGTON...GREENSBURG...LATROBE...WEIRTON...BETHANY

1014 AM EST TUE JAN 6 2015

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1 PM EST THIS

AFTERNOON...

* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...2 TO 3 INCHES.

* SNOW ENDING...SNOW WILL TAPER OFF BY THIS AFTERNOON.

* IMPACTS...HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED DUE TO SNOW

COVERED ROADS.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW MEANS THAT SNOWFALL WILL CAUSE

TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES. REPORT SNOW ACCUMULATION TO THE NATIONAL

WEATHER SERVICE BY CALLING 412-262-1988...POSTING TO THE NWS

PITTSBURGH FACEBOOK PAGE...OR USING TWITTER @NWSPITTSBURGH.

&&

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Models did a decent job with the QPF for this event over the past few days, imo.  Liquid equivalent thus far at KPIT has been 0.16".  Surprised at the ratios, though.  As of the 8 a.m. PIT climate report, 1.3" snow / 0.13" liquid equivalent = 10:1 ratio.  Looked at some of the most recent model runs, and think that the level of maximum upward vertical velocity (UVV) shifted upward from what had been progged a few days ago.  Earlier, IIRC, the maximum UVV was progged near 700-600 hPa or so which aligned more with the dendritic growth zone (temps -12 to -18C).  However, the maximum UVV apparently ended up around 550-400 hPa, where temps were below -20C at 12z this morning.

 

Also, one note on traffic issues.  Temps are below 20F, so salt is not that effective. Perhaps someone knows if PennDOT adjusts their material when temps drop below 20F...like the beet juice mixture discussed last winter?  If crews are still dropping salt in these temps, it's no wonder that a little bit of snow caused traffic problems.

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Finally looks like we see the cold temperatures for a bit. Maybe some lake effect tomorrow if you luck out around a band. Then friday I am hearing murmurs of another clipper.

Right now looks like mainly I80 and north for Friday, but the Canadian is further South. Who knows if it ends up further South like today's clipper we might see some action out of it. Speaking of the Canadian, it has wintry precip for like all of next week with a bunch of strung out looking systems. Could be interesting if something like that verified.

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NOUS41 KPBZ 062139
PNSPBZ
MDZ001-OHZ039>041-048>050-057>059-068-069-PAZ007>009-013>016-020>023-
029-031-073>076-WVZ001>004-012-021>023-041-070939-

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PITTSBURGH PA
439 PM EST TUE JAN 06 2015

...LOCAL WEATHER OBSERVATIONS... THE FOLLOWING ARE UNOFFICIAL
OBSERVATIONS TAKEN DURING THE PAST 8 HOURS FOR THE STORM THAT HAS
BEEN AFFECTING OUR REGION. APPRECIATION IS EXTENDED TO HIGHWAY
DEPARTMENTS...COOPERATIVE OBSERVERS...SKYWARN SPOTTERS AND MEDIA FOR
THESE REPORTS. THIS SUMMARY IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON OUR HOME PAGE AT
WEATHER.GOV/PITTSBURGH

********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************

LOCATION STORM TOTAL TIME/DATE COMMENTS
SNOWFALL OF
/INCHES/ MEASUREMENT

MARYLAND

...GARRETT COUNTY...
OAKLAND 8.0 1246 PM 1/06 PUBLIC
MCHENRY 4.5 1125 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA
ACCIDENT 3.0 848 AM 1/06 DEPT OF HIGHWAYS

OHIO

...BELMONT COUNTY...
BARNESVILLE 4.0 1217 PM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA

...COLUMBIANA COUNTY...
SALEM 1.2 938 AM 1/06 TRAINED SPOTTER

...COSHOCTON COUNTY...
1 W WEST LAFAYETTE 3.5 1009 AM 1/06 TRAINED SPOTTER

...GUERNSEY COUNTY...
CAMBRIDGE 3.0 843 AM 1/06 DEPT OF HIGHWAYS

...HARRISON COUNTY...
JEWETT 2.0 930 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA

...JEFFERSON COUNTY...
KNOXVILLE 3.0 1120 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA
TAYLORTOWN 2.5 1030 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA
HAMMONDSVILLE 2.0 1050 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA

...MUSKINGUM COUNTY...
BLUE ROCK 3.1 1139 AM 1/06 TRAINED SPOTTER
FRAZEYSBURG 2.5 856 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA

PENNSYLVANIA

...ALLEGHENY COUNTY...
PITCAIRN 2.5 1125 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA
1 NW MORGAN HILL 2.0 1122 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA
PITTSBURGH 2.0 230 PM 1/06 MT WASHINGTON
1 NW CARNEGIE 2.0 1140 AM 1/06 NWS EMPLOYEE
ROSS TOWNSHIP 1.8 100 PM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA
SHALER TOWNSHIP 1.8 122 PM 1/06 PUBLIC
1 NE FOX RIDGE 1.8 1111 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA
MOON TOWNSHIP 1.8 400 PM 1/06 NWS OFFICE
PENN HILLS 1.5 1120 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA

...BEAVER COUNTY...
MONACA 3.0 1137 AM 1/06 NWS EMPLOYEE
BEAVER 1.8 1119 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA

...BUTLER COUNTY...
HENDERSONVILLE 2.0 1030 AM 1/06 TRAINED SPOTTER
WEST SUNBURY 2.0 1121 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA
BUTLER 1.5 930 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA

...CLARION COUNTY...
HAWTHORN 1.8 1125 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA

...FAYETTE COUNTY...
FARMINGTON 4.2 1136 AM 1/06 TRAINED SPOTTER
SMITHFIELD 2.8 212 PM 1/06 TRAINED SPOTTER

...GREENE COUNTY...
WAYNESBURG 3.0 1121 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA
ALEPPO 3.0 1124 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA

...INDIANA COUNTY...
INDIANA 1.0 1007 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA
MARION CENTER T 1130 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA

...JEFFERSON COUNTY...
BROOKVILLE 1.0 1234 PM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA
SIGEL 1.0 200 PM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA

...WASHINGTON COUNTY...
WASHINGTON 2.1 1129 AM 1/06 PUBLIC
DEEMSTON 1.5 124 PM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA

...WESTMORELAND COUNTY...
SMITHTON 2.5 1218 PM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA
SEWARD 2.0 1219 PM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA

WEST VIRGINIA

...HANCOCK COUNTY...
WEIRTON 3.0 1112 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA
WEIRCREST 1.8 853 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA

...MARION COUNTY...
BARRACKVILLE 3.5 1200 PM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA

...PRESTON COUNTY...
AURORA 5.0 851 AM 1/06 DEPT OF HIGHWAYS
KINGWOOD 4.0 851 AM 1/06 DEPT OF HIGHWAYS
INDEPENDENCE 3.0 1050 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA

...TUCKER COUNTY...
DAVIS 6.0 1223 PM 1/06 DEPT OF HIGHWAYS
THOMAS 6.0 1223 PM 1/06 DEPT OF HIGHWAYS
PARSONS 5.0 1222 PM 1/06 DEPT OF HIGHWAYS

...WETZEL COUNTY...
READER 4.5 1123 AM 1/06 SOCIAL MEDIA

 
 
Pretty good forecast...
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