CoastalWx Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Then all the mundane torches we never remember like Jan '99 after being near 5F and snowing, Jan '05 (we always forget since the 2nd half overshadowed it), Jan '10 cutter about 5-6 days after MLK storm. Then you have the list was just plain sh** Januarys like 2002, 2006, 1995, 1992, 1990, 1986, etc. Yeah absolutely. Some of those probably are more pertinent to you since I didn't have much to melt, but I remember those. December 2003 near and post Christmas was ugly too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 some get emotional about snow, while others get emotional about idioms and grammar mistakes..whatcha gonna do..Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace0927 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 96 we know but how much snowpack was lost in the other cases? What about post Boxing Day 2010? From Boxing Day through mid February I had snow on the ground - if I'm not mistaken it was the longest or second longest stretch with consecutive days with 1" or more in NYC in recorded history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Any support for the system on the 23rd? Yes...its a bit SE of the OP run but it is definitely there. It was basically non-existent on the 00z suite. It popped up quickly...hopefully it sticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Scott, you think we might get some OES going next week? Yeah it seems that way. If the flow goes north, I don't see why not. Probably outer cape most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Yes...its a bit SE of the OP run but it is definitely there. It was basically non-existent on the 00z suite. It popped up quickly...hopefully it sticks.They also had the 22nd storm so we tread lightly but we carry a big stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Yeah absolutely. Some of those probably are more pertinent to you since I didn't have much to melt, but I remember those. December 2003 near and post Christmas was ugly too. Forgot about Dec '03...that was a nasty one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Both cars washed right down to the inner rims where the brake pads are....sparkling clean. NOW it'll turn cold and stormy. That always does the trick. Still can't get over how nice it was outside today. This multi day torch was nice, now bring on the second half of winter starting this weekend before we rinse and repeat 2/5-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 What did the weeklies show yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Does anyone remember Nov 87 one? We had 6-10 from a storm around Nov 10, and another storm came like a day or 2 later. All forecasts had it being another snowstorm . I remember hauling wood up to the house for the fireplace and it started as freezing rain. I had no idea at that time what that meant. When I woke up the next morning it was totally gone. Just wiped out. Even most of the snow banks. That is why I fear cutters. That traumatized me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 From Boxing Day through mid February I had snow on the ground - if I'm not mistaken it was the longest or second longest stretch with consecutive days with 1" or more in NYC in recorded history. We had at least an inch on the ground from 12/27 - 2/28, then a trace through 3/6. Peak depth was 26" in late January, then February was a gradual melt out. This winter is not a disaster for snowfall, but can't seem to keep it on the ground for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 What did the weeklies show yesterday? Jeez, totally forgot about them. Basically a continued ridge stretching from the Aleutians through AK and the North Pole into week 4. This was followed by lower heights stretching from SW-NE from the west coast into Greenland with some ridging across the east coast albeit weak. The 500mb ridging was weak enough to keep te,ps near to below week 3-4. All in all it doesn't look a whole lot different, other than the PNA dropping by week 4, which will try to being storminess further north I think. Week 4 as you know has not been that reliable though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Does anyone remember Nov 87 one? We had 6-10 from a storm around Nov 10, and another storm came like a day or 2 later. All forecasts had it being another snowstorm . I remember hauling wood up to the house for the fireplace and it started as freezing rain. I had no idea at that time what that meant. When I woke up the next morning it was totally gone. Just wiped out. Even most of the snow banks. That is why I fear cutters. That traumatized me. I've never seen someone your age fear cutters. You really to get scared by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I've never seen someone your age fear cutters. You really to get scared by them. LOL..my age.. From 1-99 ..everyone fears them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 What did the weeklies show yesterday? Jeez, totally forgot about them. Basically a continued ridge stretching from the Aleutians through AK and the North Pole into week 4. This was followed by lower heights stretching from SW-NE from the west coast into Greenland with some ridging across the east coast albeit weak. The 500mb ridging was weak enough to keep te,ps near to below week 3-4. All in all it doesn't look a whole lot different, other than the PNA dropping by week 4, which will try to being storminess further north I think. Week 4 as you know has not been that reliable though. Thank you! We should be nicely set up 1/20-2/10. Let's see what it produces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 This post now starts 'Part II' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 LOL..my age.. From 1-99 ..everyone fears them They suck, no doubt. But you really have a phobia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Does anyone remember Nov 87 one? We had 6-10 from a storm around Nov 10, and another storm came like a day or 2 later. All forecasts had it being another snowstorm . I remember hauling wood up to the house for the fireplace and it started as freezing rain. I had no idea at that time what that meant. When I woke up the next morning it was totally gone. Just wiped out. Even most of the snow banks. That is why I fear cutters. That traumatized me. not much hope in November anyway. It's the January wipeouts that kill me. Nothing worse than a pack wiped out in the heart of winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Tippy where have you been? I posted the link this morning from the 06z GEFS members to show the potential increased storminess. Now granted they may not all verify, but the point is that things will change after next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 They suck, no doubt. But you really have a phobia.Now you know why. Look up that Nov 87 nightmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I think the Jan 1996 and 2006 srly damaging wind event were the best cutters. They not only cut west, but cut trees down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Tippy where have you been? I posted the link this morning from the 06z GEFS members to show the potential increased storminess. Now granted they may not all verify, but the point is that things will change after next week. Okay, missed that ... (I'm involved in other stuff). Call this some "storm regime continuity" then, and it has it's merit ... Particularly because the D7 deal may just be an emerging signal here. It's a bit more discrete than the 50, 000' view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Tip, you should of just started the thread yourself...when melting Nov snowpacks are discussed in detail, it is time to turn the page on the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Tip, you should of just started the thread yourself...when melting Nov snowpacks are discussed in detail, it is time to turn the page on the discussion. You've really lost it. I don't remember you ever posting until this year..but it's been a noticeable trend and cause for concern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Okay, missed that ... (I'm involved in other stuff). Call this some "storm regime continuity" then, and it has it's merit ... Particularly because the D7 deal may just be an emerging signal here. It's a bit more discrete than the 50, 000' view Start a thread, thats a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Start a thread, thats a good idea. Okay... I'll just move that one over there, too... I just don't mean to take ownership of all these threads ...give others a chance, but fine - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduggs Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Fun post Tip. I feel many of the same emotions that you poetically describe. But those ensemble member runs aren't even the most impressive of this week. This time of year, with arctic cold in Canada, and the warm gulf stream nearby, there is almost always big potential lurking out over the 7 day horizon. A single ensemble member out that far is likely to be a fictional construction and probably not worth much attention. Then again... it's not completely on its own as you point out, with the Euro and CMC showing something in the same range. And there is even more support on the GEFs for a coastal a day later, on day 8. But I think you take it a little too far, and it's maybe not a realistic starting point for a discussion of future threats. It wasn't too long ago that the MRF was run out to 120 hours once a day and the ETA to 48 hours, twice a day. We didn't have access to ensembles (except for the occasional mention in a HPC discussion), much less the ability to inspect individual ensemble members four times a day. I think a big part of the reason why you (we) often feel that the weather gods are against us is because we get to pour over so much data. I bet if we had the computing power and modern models available back in the late 90s, there would have been many periods back then that felt like really bad luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 You've really lost it. I don't remember you ever posting until this year..but it's been a noticeable trend and cause for concern Appreciate your concern...bless you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Okay... I'll just move that one over there, too... I just don't mean to take ownership of all these threads ...give others a chance, but fine - I don't think it matters. If it looks interesting which it does...go ahead and start one. I was probably going to do one tomorrow about the time beyond next week, but feel free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Okay... I'll just move that one over there, too... I just don't mean to take ownership of all these threads ...give others a chance, but fine - You're the man, dont let anyone else tell you otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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