djr5001 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Probably won't happen! Ratios should be good but dry air could kill this for us! what dry air? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 just figured wave would probably get eaten alive up this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boreal Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Hey Voyager. Could this next one be the one? Slighlty higher ratios N & W, just on the northern fringe of the more substantial precip. I concur with you that this recipe has, for the most part, not worked our for our region--that area of moderate elevation south of the Poconos, east of the central mountains, and northwest of the piedmont. This area has not cashed in the way climatology would suggest that it should over the last 4 to 6 years. (Not a complaint, just an observation). I do however love the wintry feel out there and the truly early start to the season that we're all experiencing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Based on the previous two storms underperforming on the north fringe (though last storm was more as expected), I'm not really anticipating more than very light snow here tomorrow. I'll be happy if I'm wrong. I didnt think we were supposed to get more than 1-3 up here from yesterday's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 New Canadian gives S-Central PA some love. Actually a bit excited this time around: http://collaboration.cmc.ec.gc.ca/cmc/cmdn/pcpn_type/pcpn_type_gem_reg.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Jamie you are right, yesterday was always suppose to be weak sauce. Friday was a disappointment though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick G Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 We are in an active pattern. It does make things interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I agree Boreal. It's been a tough few winters around our region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 i'm epecting the same or less then i got yesterday! (without the slt and frzn) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Probably a good idea Sauss, although I do think you squeeze out an inch. Big winners look to be the same as yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Probably a good idea Sauss, although I do think you squeeze out an inch. Big winners look to be the same as yesterday. i had 1 1/4 yesterday. Its just cool to have these systems to track ya know. looks good outside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001kx Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Good luck to the southern Pa members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 CTP better issue something quick for the southeastern counties. They've got 4-6 in the grids and don't even have an advisory out 18 hours before start time! wtheck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeffsvilleWx Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Good luck to the southern Pa members. I'll take it. Forecast says 1-3, not 4-6. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Good luck to the southern Pa members. CTP better issue something quick for the southeastern counties. They've got 4-6 in the grids and don't even have an advisory out 18 hours before start time! wtheck? **cough** Coordination for watch for Lancaster/Adams/York with surrounding offices? **cough** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 CTP better issue something quick for the southeastern counties. They've got 4-6 in the grids and don't even have an advisory out 18 hours before start time! wtheck? There still seems to be a lot of uncertainty, even for my local area. DC has already issued watches for tomorrow, so I'm sure they will issue something soon for the southeastern counties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 **cough** Coordination for watch for Lancaster/Adams/York with surrounding offices? **cough** My local office still has snow changing to rain by 11AM with less than one inch total, so yours isn't the only office confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I'll take it. Forecast says 1-3, not 4-6. Interesting. Point-to-click and the maps are often different, I think since the map is much more generic. I'll happily take another 1" or 2" to add to my (almost gone and the rest melting) 1.75" I had yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Good luck to the southern Pa members. I will 2nd that!! Good to see you getting some snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 About these snow totals maps, NWS Pittsburgh has the Pitt area in 2-4 range on their map but they are calling for 1-3. They said in their explanation that the new maps that are being used if you see the ranges they go 1-2, 2-4, 4-6 etc. There is no 1-3 or 3-5 so it may be a little more on the map then is forecasted. I just received a message from NWS Pit that they are working on odd range snowfall maps and will have them out for future storms. I would hope that goes for State College too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-83 BLIZZARD Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 As long as it closes work Im game. After getting stuck yesterday I dont want to chance it. Earlier start time the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogan Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Good luck to the southern Pa members. We will take this and sprint to the bank! I saw a graphic of the forecast from WGAL of 3-5" for Lancaster County which seems like a good call. Whatever falls tomorrow has a good chance of hanging around for a while. Some quick math for the temps the next 7 days looks like -8 departures. Wow, that's a nice cold stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomixwx Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 That would be advisory level criteria for the entire area, would it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr5001 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 That would be advisory level criteria for the entire area, would it not? http://www.erh.noaa.gov/ctp/imgs/warningmaps/12hrsnowadvisory.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 That would be advisory level criteria for the entire area, would it not? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 i don't know, models seem to indicate i get more the the 1 1/4 i got yesterday. looks like that 2-4 may be a good call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 New event. Winter Weather Advisory from 12/10/2013 3:00 AM to 4:00 PM EST for Lancaster County. More information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeffsvilleWx Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Noon Monday, December 9, 2013:I could focus this entire discussion on yesterday's fascinating storm which produced a bull's eye of heavy snow just outside of Philly. A foot of snow was measure in a small area near Newark, and the Eagles game was an instant classic with 8 inches falling during the game! Locally, 3 inches was the average in Lancaster with 2 inches in northern areas and 4 inches in SoLanCo. Rather than breakdown Sunday's storm any further, let's take a close look at Tuesday's quick-hitting event...which is equally fascinating. While Sunday's snow was triggered by strong frontal lifting, Tuesday's storm will be focused by a potent jet stream disturbance that will race over the region in about 6 hours. Moisture and duration are limited, but temperatures, cloud moisture, and lift will coincide almost perfectly aloft (12,000 - 18,000 feet) between 6:00am and 10:00am for a brief period of excellent dendrite growth. I'm not exactly sure exactly where this small bull's eye of snow generation will end up, but this small spot could get 6 to 8 inches in just a few hours time. More widespread/common will be a 2 to 5 inches of snow with a drop off to 1 - 3 over northcentral PA.Canadian high pressure builds in Tuesday night and Wednesday ahead of an Arctic front coming for Wednesday evening. A snow shower is possible with the front, and then Thursday will be windy and cold with highs in the 20s and wind chills in the teens. Lake effect snows will fly in the usual places, and a few flurries may make it down into our area. Summing: the period Sunday (yesterday) through Thursday is about as wintry as things get in our area in early December. Who says "it doesn't get cold and snowy like it used to?" (Whomever says that is "wrong"!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeffsvilleWx Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 New event. Winter Weather Advisory from 12/10/2013 3:00 AM to 4:00 PM EST for Lancaster County. More information. 2-5 inches in an hour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 WWA hoisted. Winter Weather AdvisoryURGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGENATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE STATE COLLEGE PA221 PM EST MON DEC 9 2013...SNOW FOR THE TUESDAY MORNING COMMUTE....A STRONG JET STREAM WILL GENERATE AN AREA OF SNOW WHICH WILLRIDE UP FROM THE SOUTHWEST TONIGHT. THE SNOW WILL BEGIN BEFORESUNRISE IN MOST LOCATIONS ACROSS SOUTHERN PENNSYLVANIA. THE SNOWWILL BE HEAVY AT TIMES DURING THE MORNING...BUT TAPER OFF IN THEEARLY AFTERNOON.PAZ024>028-033>036-049>053-056>059-063>066-100530-/O.NEW.KCTP.WW.Y.0025.131210T0800Z-131210T2100Z/CAMBRIA-BLAIR-HUNTINGDON-MIFFLIN-JUNIATA-SOMERSET-BEDFORD-FULTON-FRANKLIN-UNION-SNYDER-MONTOUR-NORTHUMBERLAND-COLUMBIA-PERRY-DAUPHIN-SCHUYLKILL-LEBANON-CUMBERLAND-ADAMS-YORK-LANCASTER-INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...JOHNSTOWN...ALTOONA...HUNTINGDON...MOUNT UNION...LEWISTOWN...MIFFLINTOWN...SOMERSET...BEDFORD...MCCONNELLSBURG...CHAMBERSBURG...LEWISBURG...SELINSGROVE...DANVILLE...SUNBURY...SHAMOKIN...BLOOMSBURG...BERWICK...NEWPORT...HARRISBURG...HERSHEY...POTTSVILLE...LEBANON...CARLISLE...GETTYSBURG...YORK...LANCASTER221 PM EST MON DEC 9 2013...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 3 AM TO 4 PM ESTTUESDAY...THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STATE COLLEGE HAS ISSUED A WINTERWEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 3 AM TO 4 PM ESTTUESDAY.* LOCATIONS...SOUTHERN PENNSYLVANIA AND THE POCONOS.* HAZARD TYPES...SNOW.* ACCUMULATIONS...2 TO 5 INCHES OF SNOW.* TIMING...BEGINNING BEFORE SUNRISE...TAPERING OFF IN THE LATE MORNING AND AFTERNOON.* IMPACTS...THE SNOW WILL CAUSE POOR VISIBILITY AND SNOW COVERED ROADS. THIS WILL SLOW TRAFFIC...ESPECIALLY DURING THE MORNING COMMUTE.* WINDS...WEST 5 TO 15 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 25 MPH.* TEMPERATURES...IN THE UPPER 20S.* VISIBILITIES...AS LOW AS ONE-QUARTER OF A MILE.PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...HAZARDOUS WINTER WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING.USE CAUTION IF TRAVELING. FOR THE LATEST WEATHER INFORMATION...GOTO WEATHER.GOV/CTP OR STAY TUNED TO NOAA WEATHER RADIO.REPORT SNOW OR ICE ACCUMULATION TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICESTATE COLLEGE BY SENDING AN EMAIL TO [email protected] TO THE NWS STATE COLLEGE FACEBOOK PAGE...OR TWEET@NWSSTATECOLLEGE WITH THE HASHTAG #CTPWX.&&$$DANGELO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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