pawatch Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 3.8" of snow (0.24" liquid equiv) followed by 0.10" of freezing rain (0.19" liquid) for 0.43" total liquid equiv. Snow depth is a solid 3" with a heavy crust on top. Allweather, good call on that megaband yesterday. You said anywhere from the turnpike to Baltimore and it set up right in between. I dont know what I would have done if those crazy rates made it here and I ended up with 8-10". I'm still happy with this event and CTP nailed it down here. Coop just wondering how do you measure the freezing rain? I have a hard enough time measuring snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr5001 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I ended up with 1.5" which compacted to a depth of just under 1" this morning... 1/8" ice... im expecting most of it to be melted here by the time I get home from work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllWeather Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 3.8" of snow (0.24" liquid equiv) followed by 0.10" of freezing rain (0.19" liquid) for 0.43" total liquid equiv. Snow depth is a solid 3" with a heavy crust on top. Allweather, good call on that megaband yesterday. You said anywhere from the turnpike to Baltimore and it set up right in between. I dont know what I would have done if those crazy rates made it here and I ended up with 8-10". I'm still happy with this event and CTP nailed it down here. Thanks! Was a crazy band of snow for sure...so close to hitting the souther county cities! These overrunning precip events almost always over perform and that strong frontogenetical forcing wasn't being picked up by the globals (as you might expect with lower resolution). My first indication that this would over-perform the forecasts was looking at the RAP early yesterday morning...then the HRRR added to that notion when it got into range. Crazy. Coop just wondering how do you measure the freezing rain? I have a hard enough time measuring snow. I'm not Cashtown, but I figured I'd add my method. I went out on the deck and chipped away the ice in one spot, then put my ruler up against the left-standing ice to make the measurement. Not official, I know, but close enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashtown_Coop Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Coop just wondering how do you measure the freezing rain? I have a hard enough time measuring snow. NWS supplies us with a ruler for measuring snow, ice, and precip as pictured below. It's very handy and is broken down into tenths as that's the standard scale NWS requires. This shot was back on Feb. 2nd 2011 on South Mt. http://www.wunderground.com/wximage/Mason803/144?gallery= try link, couldn't get pic to post As far as measuring, I like tree branches for my ob. I'll check several different branches because ice accumulates at different rates, then take the average. You have to measure from top of branch as shown in pic, not the whole diameter. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Just got done with snow/ice removal for here at our Building. Damn ice on the sidewalks gives this old man a good work out. last night i measured 1 1/4" before the slt/frz. Couple crashes on the interstate and this am i went on a call where a Telephone pole fell on a commercial building, lucky the damn place didn't burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Had to run this morning to a shop in Camp Hill on 17th, then back to my office at Front and Locust in Harrisburg. I think Camp Hill added water to their roads overnight to ensure they became ice rinks. WTF. This was a weird little storm as MDT had more snow than the rest of the Harrisburg gang, and I was able to eek out an extra .1-.25 over the others for being a hair south. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anduril Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Anyone know how the sidewalks are in harrisburg? My fiance had a hip replacement in the spring and is very leary of slipping/falling and hurting it or damaging the other side since that'll need replaced in the near future as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Heavy mist still falling at 29 degrees here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr5001 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Anyone know how the sidewalks are in harrisburg? My fiance had a hip replacement in the spring and is very leary of slipping/falling and hurting it or damaging the other side since that'll need replaced in the near future as well anything treated is fine just wet... non treated icy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Most models are now on-board for accumulating snows from this second wave that will arrive tomorrow. As of now, the sweet spot is once again in MD/DE, but some accumulating snows could be possible as far north as I-80. Here's a look at the Canadian: Screen Shot 2013-12-09 at 7.29.37 AM.png Thanks for posting that. Euro also looks decent for the weekend system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Anyone know how the sidewalks are in harrisburg? My fiance had a hip replacement in the spring and is very leary of slipping/falling and hurting it or damaging the other side since that'll need replaced in the near future as well They suck if they haven't been touched, just depends on where she has to walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porsche Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Yes I know it's the NAM, but that band looks sweet , it's right over my house LOL, so I know it won't happen, but I'll take another 2-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porsche Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Thanks for posting that. Euro also looks decent for the weekend system. What did the Euro show for this weekend, I didn't get a chance to look. Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Allweather and Coop Thanks for the replies! Still a light drizzle here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 LOL...Southern PA looks like another winner is coming your way! Snow hole on State College. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 And I have my first wipeout of the season as I fell coming off the steps of the Willard side exit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Ended up with 5"...2" at Heinz field and 3" here at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashtown_Coop Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 LWX has Frederick County in 3-5" zone and Washington County in 1-3" zone for tomorrow. that's good news for us bordering counties. edit: WSW posted for neighboring counties all the way back to Washington County for possible 5+". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anduril Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Harrisburg wasn't bad at all got her to work without issue. Get home and I wipe out on our skating rink parking light *sighs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Snow scoreboard: MDT: Seasonal: 1.8 Normal to date: 2.2 Normal through Dec: 5.9 IPT: Seasonal: 3.0 Normal to date: 3.5 Normal through Dec: 8.6 UNV: Seasonal: 7.2 Normal to Date: 4.5 Normal through Dec: 10.2 The Normal to Date is Oct/Nov/26% of December, which probably is close but not entirely right. I guess MDT has a shot at above normal to date with the next storm, UNV is doing pretty well, all in all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiier04 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Yup, definitely can't complain here... too many winters I remember going all the way through December without a single storm. Active pattern looks to continue... hopefully we'll all be drowning in snow by January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick G Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Wilkes-barre had barely a .5 inch of new snow and about .10 of ice. roads are good, but parking lots and driveways are not. Given that it was 35 on my way into work today (We had a delayed start) roads were good. local schools all bailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jims Videos Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Ended up with about .25 of ice in Hershey which is making scraping a challenge right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Snow scoreboard: MDT: Seasonal: 1.8 Normal to date: 2.2 Normal through Dec: 5.9 IPT: Seasonal: 3.0 Normal to date: 3.5 Normal through Dec: 8.6 UNV: Seasonal: 7.2 Normal to Date: 4.5 Normal through Dec: 10.2 The Normal to Date is Oct/Nov/26% of December, which probably is close but not entirely right. I guess MDT has a shot at above normal to date with the next storm, UNV is doing pretty well, all in all. good info, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiier04 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 12z GFS is an improvement... brings accumulating snow to pretty much the whole area. Assuming ratios would be decent so 3-5" verbatim for southern tier and the lehigh valley? even brings 2-4 back this way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 12z GFS is an improvement... brings accumulating snow to pretty much the whole area. Assuming ratios would be decent so 3-5" verbatim for southern tier and the lehigh valley? even brings 2-4 back this way Looks mostly I-81 east right now but models have been improving for back your way. It's a very fragile setup though and can fall apart still. Best to temper expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Based on the previous two storms underperforming on the north fringe (though last storm was more as expected), I'm not really anticipating more than very light snow here tomorrow. I'll be happy if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Looks mostly I-81 east right now but models have been improving for back your way. It's a very fragile setup though and can fall apart still. Best to temper expectations. I'm expecting 1" if we're lucky. Looks like yet another south/I-95 season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Probably won't happen! Ratios should be good but dry air could kill this for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I'm expecting 1" if we're lucky. Looks like yet another south/I-95 season... Lol..too early man, they could be torch city while we get dumped on by Feb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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