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TellicoWx

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  1. As the pressure has started to rise, the 850s can start pulling back south. Add in the rates able to tap that, time of day it's occurring, downslope winds starting to ease up and switch..and you have a great recipe. Look at the time stamps of the valley PWS coinciding with everyone posting how goose feathers have picked up.

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  2. Just now, Carvers Gap said:

    TRI has been above freezing all day.  I think warming yesterday (clouds moved in later and at perfectly the wrong time) seeded the problems for today.  We got too warm yesterday afternoon due to sun.  Then clouds moved in and capped that warmth so it couldn't radiate out.   Time of day IMO was the single, biggest determining factor of who got what.  

    That definitely didn't help matters..more heating makes it harder to scour out, especially if you lose radiational cooling. Bath tub theory..clouds act as a partial clog to drain out the heat.

  3. 10 minutes ago, Carvers Gap said:

    For several days, the NAM busted badly in the eastern valley as it didn't have any snow east of the Plateau.  Globals did much better over here.  The final run of the GFS before the event is probably going to verify for the most part with the exception of the foothills which mostmodels basically failed w/ until the last minute..  The Canadian sniffed out the problems in the eastern foothills first.  Once the NAM came on board yesterday, it also had it.  The HRRR also had it to some extent when it came into range.  It is also worth pointing out that the NAM doing well in middle and west TN while not doing well here is easily explainable.  It was closer in time to the event and those areas got cold quickly(better ratios).  On this end, we were still several hours behind from a modeling standpoint...and it overdid accums on the Plateau and Cumberlands which was feedback.  I do think the NC lee side low caused it problems.  Once it lost that feedback(and we got closer in time), it did much better. It didn't dial-in here until about 12-16 hours to go.   The other problem is that as the system backed and slowed, the NAM tended to feedback.  The ICON is probably gonna be the big winner in all of this statewide, and that is probably a shock to most - me for sure.   The 3k NAM was particularly good.  The 12k NAM was terrible.  The RAP and HRRR have been really good as well.  I don't like the RAP, but it has done decently this go around.  

    As MRX noted, no model had the warm air pushing to I-81 in NE TN.....personally, I think the front stalled at dawn at the Plateau and then daytime temps caused issues.  The front stalling on the Plateau is not unusual.  As Tellico noted the other day, Knoxville has a nice pathway for cold air from the Plateau.  Chattanooga and TRI do not.   The big red flag was when temps in NE TN yesterday beat forecast highs by 8 degrees.  That produced a lot of warm air to scour as we got cloudy at dark, and warm air couldn't scour.  Then it go banked against the Apps this AM.

    The NAM itself is I think a false positive.  It got some things right, but for the wrong reason IMO.  It got incorrectly amped and missed the track, but its snow totals worked out.  Why?  The cold air moved aggressively into middle and west TN and allowed rates to be crazy good.  I have roughy 4" of snow right now.  My ratio might be 8:1.  If it was colder, I would likely have double that.  So, whichever model moved the cold in most aggressively is correct...and I don't which one that is....probably the RGEM? The other thing is that the over-amping of the NAM gave it some semblance of expanding the precip shield.  Its precip shield was juiced due to feedback and had a bad track in the East - plenty of snow fell east of the Apps which it didn't have.  In reality, that precip shield was going to fill in as the rush of cold air squeezed every drop of moisture out of the air - it was impressive.  The entry point of heavy precip was decently modeled and didn't change much.  

    Still looking through some of the reports from middle and west TN which are incredibly helpful.  I think the main bust(and let's be honest, nobody cares if a model busts and they get more snow than shown), is the foothills...and that may take some time to figure out.  

    Great analysis...I think in the end the wave that generates the Lee Low wasn't well handled. Once in range the models start being able to hone in so to speak. Combine it with the plateau slowing things down naturally...it stalled and pushed back the Arctic air, especially at the downslope prone areas. With the pressure stabilizing now, more areas are going to be on the correct side of the Lee. Allows the artic to resume its push.

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  4. Just now, Stovepipe said:

    I'm gonna go ahead and say this is the best snow experience I've had since moving to east TN in 1994.  Not necessarily the biggest flakes or heaviest convective bands but damn good.  I was here for Jan/Feb 96.  March 2022 was some of the hardest I've seen fall and possibly the most accumulation at my area.  But this long duration event is a thing of beauty.  I'm over the 6 inch mark currently and the scene outside is picture perfect dime ripping heavy snow with fatty radar returns on the way.  Best east TN storm for me.  Very very grateful.

    Yeah you guys are gonna get rocked..wouldn't be surprised if some in the valley will go over a foot.

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