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    Met Summer Banter

    in New England

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    6 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

    Do you have a source for hospitalization and death data by vaccination status in this country? Israel seems to be a lot more open with this than we are...

    I agree that they are about 2 months "ahead" of us with this. I expect October and November to get pretty hysterical in this country as vaccinated people start showing up more strongly in the severe outcome statistics, even if we try to whitewash it like we are now.

    You seem to be borderline happy that vaccinated people are getting infected... the sack fungus/ball rot discussion in the August Disco continues to be more entertaining and interesting than COVID talk here in banter.  Yet it continues...

    Met Summer Banter

    in New England

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    26 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

    Agreed.   Although Tampa Bay says “meh”

    Right, except Tampa Bay gets 2 good years then 5 mediocre/bad ones with their budget, while LA gets 5 good years and 2 mediocre ones in their budget.

    There's at least one or two big market teams consistently in the playoffs every season, while the number of smaller market teams tend to rotate more.  There's exceptions sure, but last 20 years or so that's been the pattern.

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    Met Summer Banter

    in New England

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    14 minutes ago, SouthCoastMA said:

    Damn. Was hoping for Rizzo. Maybe we can still pull off a Berrios or Scherzer and another bullpen arm

    I hope so because E-Rod isn’t getting it done…

    Met Summer Banter

    in New England

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    COVID sucks masks vaccines blah blah blah…

    Onto more interesting banter - looks like Sox are interested in Max Scherzer (WAS) and Kyle Schwarber (CHC). Nice to see them in a buying mood.

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    Met Summer Banter

    in New England

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    47 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

    Those are vaccines in the true sense. Covid vaccine is not. They threw it together in a hurry and time will tell, but there are going to be big issues down the road based on art blues, studies, links posted in this thread and elsewhere. No one knows for certain exactly what , only that health issues are likely . None of us have ever gotten a flu shot. Half the time they don’t even have the right strand and we rarely if ever get the flu . And if you get the flu , guess what.. you get better. So why would healthy people feel the need to get this shot other than being scared by the media? If you’re healthy and get Covid… you get better .. just like any other flu .

     

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    Met Summer Banter

    in New England

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    11 minutes ago, radarman said:

    Absolutely don't mean this personally but just as we need data for (likely erroneous) claims like vaccines are killing folks, causing infertility, etc., etc., we need data for this too. 

    Here's some for example.  https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1005517/Technical_Briefing_19.pdf

    Very up to date stats, no editorializing, from England showing that individuals with one or more jabs were responsible for >30% of infections  (~10% 2 jabs + 2 weeks) whereas all possible reinfection cases are 1.2%, with actually confirmed reinfections a third of that.  I have an open mind here, but I certainly don't give media and politicians the benefit of the doubt if they aren't going to have the courtesy to point us to the studies that suggest reinfection risk is notable compared to the post vaccine risk.

     

    Well to start, there's this:

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2103825?query=TOC

    However, that wasn't the article I was thinking about when I posted earlier.

    This article points to some data that shows that the immune system response is slightly more robust in individuals that recovered from coronavirus and then received an immunization, compared to not getting immunized at all.  Peer reviewed, but small sample size (they were collecting cells directly from lymph nodes):

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03738-2#article-comments

    But your data from England is more current.  There's also another Cleveland Clinic article that is leaning towards there not being as much of difference between natural immunity and vaccination, similar to the English stats.

    I think this will get sorted out in the next year or so.  Right now it does seem that the medical community consensus, as bleeding edge as it is at the moment, is that if you recovered from coronavirus, to get at least one shot, especially if you're in a more vulnerable demographic.  I also think it's good news that the English research points to delta not really causing a high-reinfection rate.

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    Met Summer Banter

    in New England

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    8 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

    The unvaccinated have been living just fine since March 2020. We flew on airplanes, ate out at restaurants, went to work, had fun.

    It's still very possible to not even realize COVID exists. It barely ever registered up in Coos County, NH, for example.

    Not really what I meant - you totally moved the goalposts there.

    Survival (noun): the state or fact of continuing to live or exist, typically in spite of an accident, ordeal, or difficult circumstances.

    Survival can involve a lot of misery.  Humanity survived the Black Plague.  But if I remember my history correctly, approximately 20 % of the world's population died from it.  Most people don't want to just "survive" they want to live a comfortable more peaceful life.

    So yes, we've survived other pandemics and plagues in the past.  But why can't we want more than just survival?

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    Met Summer Banter

    in New England

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    10 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

    It's rather weird. It's how the human species has survived every other disease like this, but now it's almost totally ignored in the public discourse.

    Most people want to live, not survive.

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    Met Summer Banter

    in New England

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    Just now, HoarfrostHubb said:

    Any theories on why the US has suffered the most (in terms of deaths). Maybe the data is false (we overreported and others underreported)?  Our lifestyles (travel etc).  

    Lots of co-morbidities.  And I think there are huge gaps in our healthcare system that always get exposed in these types of scenarios.

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    Met Summer Banter

    in New England

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    4 minutes ago, radarman said:

    please do link

    I wish I had links but I don't.  I tend do a Google Scholar search when I read a normal news article that states "A study in the NEJM released today" blah blah blah.  Sometimes it's only abstracts though a lot of the COVID stuff has been published full text online, especially before it's fully peer reviewed.

    Met Summer Banter

    in New England

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    Just now, PhineasC said:

    Natural immunity better be a thing or we will never escape this. Much of the third world will never be vaccinated and even many Americans who were vaccinated the first time will skip the second time around.

    But I think yourself and others are already latching on to the fact that as this virus mutates over time, it will get milder and milder - as you said, similar to the flu.

    I think natural immunity plays a role in that, definitely.  The immunes systems natural protections nudge viruses to evolve into weaker versions over time.  It's kind of a cat and mouse game.  I have a friend who is an epidemiologist and they are on board with that theory as well - pending research of course.  But it's trending that way...

    Met Summer Banter

    in New England

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    21 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

    It's also still so weird to me that in all of this debate, no one ever talks about natural immunity anymore. It's either vax or no vax. Surely by now many millions of people have natural immunity?

    From the studies I've read, natural immunity is fine vs the variant you have had, not as much vs other variants. And there is concern as to ho long immunity lasts, since coronavirus as a viral family also contain virus that also produce some "colds".

    We'll know more as time goes on.  There's tons of ongoing studies looking at duration and effectiveness of immunity (as well as vaccinations) right now.  So far studies show immunity plus the vaccine as a booster is very effective in preventing yourself from getting ill, even with delta.

    Met Summer Banter

    in New England

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    1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said:

    Combine Covid, folks that don’t understand vac poison and beer. You’ve got yourself a veritable powder keg. And it goes up in a hurry 

    What’s poison? You’ve referred to poison a couple of times tonight…

    July 2021 Discussion

    in New England

    Posted

    4 hours ago, Ginx snewx said:

    Rain rain I don't mind the weather is fine.

    If the rain comes
    They run and hide their heads
    They might as well be dead
    If the rain comes
    If the rain comes
    When the sun shines
    They slip into the shade
    (When the sun shines down)
    And sip their lemonade
    (When the sun shines down)
    When the sun shines
    When the sun shines
    Rain, I don't mind
    Shine, the weather's fine

    B-side of Paperback Writer.  Great track! Underrated...

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