BuffaloWeather

I would deal with 12 hours of traffic to experience totality again. Nothing compares to it. Not even 99.9%. I've traveled and hiked all over the world and I was completely blown away. Already making plans for Spain in 2026

Sandusky is my spot today 

I'll be heading for Sandusky, checking satellite tomorrow morning and adjusting for final location.

Have 2 friends chasing this, they're both south of Columbus. Had a few hours of clearing already.

Starting to look pretty solid for my area.

ensembles looking pretty good for New York for eclipse.

26 minutes ago, mosi76 said:

Hey there @BuffaloWeather 

Do you guys cover CNY/Mohawk Valley area? I would love to join the Discord.

Thanks

We do, we have a number of posters from there. Check your Pms!

3 hours ago, CoraopolisWx said:

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We all migrated over to discord. Much better platform than here. We have around 100 members from Great lakes/Ontario/New York on there. The discord is as active as new englands sub-forum here.

1 hour ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Here's Syracuse, NY. XMacis has a ton of missing data from the early years.

However, the Monthly Weather Review shows the correct figures for those years:

Again, the average was quite a bit less than the modern values, probably in part attributable to site location changes and measuring techniques. But also there's likely been an actual, significant increase in snowfall downwind of the lakes due to the decreasing ice coverage season/warmer water temperatures.

Anyways, using the corrected values, I put together a list of the top ten least snowy winters for Syracuse [neglecting any site changes, snow board impacts, etc..]. With the current winter shown for comparison. Records date to 1902. Last year appears to have been the 13th least on record, just below the infamous mild winter of 1918-1919. In recent decades, only 2001-2002 & 2011-2012 had less snowfall.

 

Syracuse moved their recording location similar to Buffalo. They moved it to a far more snowy location 10 miles north of the city. Any data pre 1940 shouldn't be used for Buffalo, and any data pre 1949 shouldn't be used for Syracuse. 

Prior to 1949, official Syracuse weather reports including snowfall were recorded in downtown Syracuse.

https://www.localsyr.com/weather/historic-lack-of-snowfall-in-syracuse-this-winter/

46 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:

Thats crazy. Does syracuse usually get a lot of LES?

Looks like this is Cleveland and Erie's worst 10-year stretch since the 1920s-30s, but that stretch was worse.

Ohio has been in quite a snow rut. You can include Toledo, as multiple events seem to diverse at the MI/OH line, esp the last two years (plus TOL is actually well south and west of the actual city, so I dont usually pay attention to that area, but the last 2 years have been crazy low). 

That data is super sketchy in 20s/30s. Not valid imo 

Eries average is 104.5” per year, Cleveland is 63.8”

That’s a 10 year average of 78” at Erie and 40” at Cleveland. 

4 minutes ago, Chambana said:

Glad to see you pop in again. 34.5” for Syracuse is absolute bananas. 

They’re 303” below normal last 5 winters. (This year isn’t over yet)

I believe Erie Pa and Cleveland are just as bad. 

I’ve been extremely lucky here with 3 massive lake effect events. 

1 hour ago, roardog said:

There’s a lot of over reaction in here. The pattern we had this winter and last winter would have resulted in very warm winters even if it was 1895. When we start seeing above normal temps in “cold” patterns then we can start to worry that it will never snow or be cold again. I mean look how cold it was over the entire western half of the country just last winter. Most of this sub had a cold winter just two years ago and that’s after a warm December. It’ll get cold again if the pattern supports it. 

The string for Cleveland, Erie and Syracuse is unlike anything since recording history began.

Syracuse averages 127.8" of snow per year. Here are the snow totals the last 5 yrs.

2019-2020: 87.6"

2020-2021: 73.3"

2021-2022: 76"

2022-2023: 65.6"

2023-2024: 34.5" (so far)

Syracuse has never gone more than 3 yrs without getting to 100" of snowfall, this year will be their 5th consecutive year.

A few mentioned wanting a thread here to discuss Upstate NY weather. If you want to know where everyone went, most have migrated over to our discord, if you would like an invite PM me.

It's there, link is below.

But everyone left for our discord. If you'd like an invite to it PM me. We have 100 members from all over Upstate NY/Albany/Binghamton/Toronto

4 hours ago, BooneWX said:

I want to give a shout out to @BuffaloWeather. While the winter in the south sucked, your livestreams during lake effect have not. Hopefully you’ve got one more event left at least!

Thank you! Appreciate it! 

Got around to editing Round 2

22 minutes ago, Daniel Boone said:

Watched storm chaser live stream of those. Lightning and thunder at times as well. Fun to watch ! 

Here’s my channel. I livestream pretty much every lake effect snow event. 

https://youtube.com/@BuffaloWeather1?si=ejBQEpKesBefZzoL

30 minutes ago, John1122 said:

That's why if I went west I'd to to Mammoth. The town is at 8,000 feet with tons of housing at 9-10k around the resort. They seem extremely efficient at clearing roads too. The fellow who does one of the channels I watch lives at about 9100 in what looks basically like a subdivision. Last year snow depth was over his 2nd story back deck, which is 26 feet in the air.  

I honestly thought about moving to upstate New York but I get outvoted.  Real estate seems affordable in the Tug Hull plateau. 

Yeah real estate is cheap in tug, but super remote. I love where I live because it’s a town of 60-70k people, can walk to everything I need and still get slammed. Has the best of both worlds. The snow belt of Lake Erie has spots that average 200”+ per year, tug has spots that average 300”+ per. 

6 minutes ago, John1122 said:

I've been fortunate enough to be in heavy lake effect before but not like that. How widespread is it there? I've always heard a 10 mile wide path may get 3 or 4 feet but outside that it might just be a few inches. 

It’s like any event though. You need to be above 7-8k feet to get the goods out west. The 5-6’ stuff is only across the very highest elevations. 

10 minutes ago, Carvers Gap said:

That is awesome!  I have always wanted to see lake effect snow.

It’s insane I’ve seen 8” per hour snowfall rates here. Early season events are very sloppy too, not fluff. 

4 minutes ago, John1122 said:

I've been fortunate enough to be in heavy lake effect before but not like that. How widespread is it there? I've always heard a 10 mile wide path may get 3 or 4 feet but outside that it might just be a few inches. 

The 2 from last year. 

https://www.weather.gov/buf/lesEventArchive?season=2022-2023&event=A

7 hours ago, John1122 said:

From the Mammoth area. At some point when I see atmospheric river forecast well in advance, gonna have to rent a chalet up there and make the trip. They got 3+ feet yesterday, not sure how much more last night. I was watching a youtube video filmed yesterday at just over 9000 feet and the guy said it was snowing 4 inches per hour. 

339 AM PST Mon Feb 5 2024

...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 AM PST TUESDAY
ABOVE 5000 FEET...

* WHAT...Heavy snow expected above 5000 feet. Additional snow
  accumulations of 3 to 5 feet. Additional snow accumulations as
  high as 7 feet are possible at elevations above 8,000 feet.
  Winds gusting as high as 50 mph.

* WHERE...The Sierra Nevada above 5000 feet.

* WHEN...Valid through 4 AM PST Tuesday.

* IMPACTS...Travel could be very difficult to impossible.
  Widespread blowing snow could significantly reduce visibility.
  Very strong winds could cause extensive tree damage.

Just come up to Buffalo for a lake effect storm. Shorter drive and you dont have to chase in the rural areas/mountains. You can stay in a big town.  We just got this a few weeks ago. Last winter we had 2 storms bigger and worse than this one. The one in January we recorded snowfall rates of over 5" per hour. Its all on my YouTube channel in my signature if you want to check it out. In the last 13 months I had a 80" storm in 3 days, a 53" storm with 70 MPH winds, and a 76" storm over 5 days.

Video from day 2 of the event.

6 minutes ago, GaWx said:

The unrounded ONI max came in at +1.97. RONI never made strong with another +1.49.

Still super 2.0 rounded, everyone here told him no chance and he stuck with his guns, props!