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lol @beavis1729

Energy sector guy?

It probably works the same way when some root for a warm Fall (I.E. October 1963) that others would find miserable.

As mentioned before, this sub's kind of paying the piper for the string of good winters in the late 2000s / early 2010s. Everything has a equilibrium.

My comment was more so focused on the "Winter is over" part of that tweet. They are being flippant and are technically wrong (winter weather can certainly still happen well into March / April as has been pointed out), but I see the validity in the spirit of their statement in recognition of the broader pattern. BTW, 2012 is funny in a way too because as much as folks talk about March, May was also fairly torchy (it just doesn't get discussed as much being that it sat right in the shadows of March) and both months sandwiched an April with a pretty hard freeze for many areas.

Some folks may come along and talk about how there's still March to go through which averages a fair bit of snow or how we always see a cold snap in March/April, but you can't fight the overall trends/signals. The odds of locking in another sustained/long-lasting winter pattern for the remainder of this season are progressively diminishing by the day.

This wekeend will hopefuly be the last freeze of the season, and we can transition into Spring mode.

While Lake Michigan is certainly part of it, to get a GHD 1-type storm to take a favorable track for Detroit to get dumped on, it would also require a deepening low pressure center to move up the spine of the Appalachian Mountains *AND* with an intense TROWAL, which is much more difficult to accomplish thanks to the complications with topography / downsloping.

Although total amounts will still be underwhelming, considering you all managed to get 100% snow when a mix or even straight rain was expected for today's event should definitely count as a good bust.

Indeed to the bolded. I did exactly that myself with respect to severe weather and sunny weather.

Whew!!!

All the Canadian Wildfire Smoke you guys dealt with last year definitely contributed to the cooler daytime highs. I have little doubt DTW sees a max temp this year higher than 90*F.

I think everyone can agree GHD 1 was still a nice storm, just as GHD 2 was a nice storm, their objective flaws aside. Again, just offering a balanced perspective about GHD 2 in particular instead of dogpiling on Stevo.

As long as it's near/above average temp-wise (which it is), I'll take zzzzzzz this time of year over cold & zzzzzzz.

Yeah, now that was definitely an impressive storm by all measures. But as you say, extremely rare and unlikely to be repeated any time soon.

I get it though. It was most certainly memorable in terms of the total amounts, how widespread the 12"+ amounts were, and even duration. But from an observational perspective. I can see how it may have be forgettable if you're one whose preference is for storms with say blizzard conditions, TSSN, 12"+ amount within a short window, etc. EDIT: BTW, just trying to offer a more nuanced take instead of being quick to bash / criticize Stevo about his memory.

I would also say your description of "very heavy snow" is an exaggeration. Those ground observations you referenced are based more so around visibilities than actual snowfall intensity. With the powdery nature of the snow and the sustained winds around 15-25 MPH, it was pretty easy to accomplish persistent 1/2 (moderate snow) or 1/4 mile (heavy snow) visibilities throughout much of the event. That said, I will grant that even DTX admits rates were up to 1" per hour in some areas, with the high ratios helping the snow to accumulate efficiently. Again, as I stated, it was a nice storm for what it was (a widespread 12"+ snowstorm, for many the biggest of their lifetime). And as I also stated, there was definitely some blowing/drifiting. But let's not over-romanticize how impressive it was either.

As nice as GHD 2 was from a total amount and spread-the-wealth standpoint, for this subforum it wasn't really an impressive wind producer nor a storm with particularly heavy rates (compared to its predecessor in 2011). It was mostly a long duration light/moderate event, lasting over 24 hours (at the peak, rates were maybe 1/2 inch per hour). There was some blowing/drifting towards the end, but again, nothing out of the ordinary for that area. That could be why it's sort of hard to remember this event, lol.

Of course I use the term Morch loosely. It should go without saying that a 2012 repeat is very unlikely, but I've seen a number of long term forecasts pointing towards a warmer than normal March.

With the El Nino breaking down, you might get your wish this year for a warm Spring (including a Morch). Just have to make it through the first week of March for the warmer than normal pattern to hopefully settle in.

Larry Cosgrove seems to think it's going to be Morch-y this year. So yeah, while there's plenty of winter left to go calendar and climo-wise, with the current pattern the way it is and if Cosgrove's onto something, that window is getting shorter.

Heavier than New Years 2008?

At last, the Sun (and possibly 70s) has returned!!!

I am so over this Seattle-esque weather...

I remember when a WWA became the simplified headline for Snow and Freezing Rain Advisories.