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44 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

More than 1 in 5 patients develop heart damage as a result of COVID-19 in Wuhan, China, one small study published March 27 in the journal JAMA Cardiology suggested.

Cardiologists say several scenarios could be unfolding: The heart may struggle to pump blood in the absence of enough oxygen; the virus may directly invade heart cells; or the body, in its attempt to eradicate the virus, may mobilize a storm of immune cells that attack the heart.

https://www.livescience.com/how-coronavirus-affects-heart.html

That article linked by LakeEffect would support the first scenario - and the most likely, in my non-professional opinion. Hopefully it's not autoimmune, but that would be leading to more sepsis deaths - don't think we're seeing that in the data. Scenario #2 is freaky, but I would imagine autopsies would be showing evidence of this.

On 4/7/2020 at 9:53 AM, rochesterdave said:

I’m very liberal and even I think that extra $ is a mistake. I mean, someday we HAVE to pay this back, right? I’m definitely not opposed to giving someone a decent unemployment check, but when it rivals what you’d actually make- you lose all incentive to return. 
Hope this is over soon. I think April will just about wrap it up. The normalization process will take must of May, but then we’ll be looking good for summer. 

This weekend, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi wrote a letter to colleagues saying: "CARES 2 must go further... extending and strengthening unemployment benefits."

Several GOP lawmakers, including Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., had tried to change the language in the $2 trillion-plus stimulus bill last month to remove any incentive for workers to leave their jobs in order to make more on unemployment. The effort failed.

18 hours ago, DeltaT13 said:

Thats a very interesting article.  A damn shame it had to be spun into a strange trump dick sucking direction.  Trump doesnt know an ion, from an electron, or how iron has any part of human blood chemistry.  Someone much smarter probably told him it had hope and now he is somehow getting praise as if he came up with the medicine or idea to use it as a treatment himself.  We don't need any medical advice from any president, Whether its Trump or Obama.  Leave that shit to the professionals who have spent decades working and studying in a lab.

Cool article, shitty spin.  Hope we can get this virus figured out soon. 

Bro, we know you hate our President. We know he obviously heard about HydroxyC from doctors and we know he mentioned it at a presser. We also know the press & some Govs freaked out about it and we know they have since changed or changing their tunes. It is what it is. Move along and embrace the good news as we learn more about this killer and be thankful the Fed emergency-approved it for use as it appears to be saving lives.

1 hour ago, Syrmax said:

Interesting Plot Twist regarding source of NY-based Coronavirus infections...Europe!  If confirmed, we really had no realistic chance to limit this once it got out of China, which was inevitable...

Snip:

New research indicates that the coronavirus began to circulate in the New York area by mid-February, weeks before the first confirmed case, and that travelers brought in the virus mainly from Europe, not Asia.

“The majority is clearly European,” said Harm van Bakel, a geneticist at Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, who co-wrote a study awaiting peer review.

Maybe people from China traveling to Europe in Nov-Dec...infecting Europeans and mutating to the 'European' strain, then Europeans traveling to NYC in Jan-Feb. Sneaky virus.

On 4/6/2020 at 7:31 AM, Luke_Mages said:

That's sad. I remember back in 08/09 hearing my dad and his friends talk about how they were taking advantage of the extended unemployment at that time. And just last week we interviewed someone who said they were going to have to decline because they'd rather be on unemployment making $1100 a week doing nothing than $1200+ a week working a job.

The epitome of entitlement...agreed - it's human nature to take the path of least resistance and that's why true socialism fails every time.

21 hours ago, cny rider said:

I think it's important to remember those without symptoms haven't had symptoms yet.

LEt's see what happens in the next few weeks with that group before drawing conclusions.

 

The Diamond Princess ship was disembarked Feb. 27. It's safe to draw a conclusion now. Just 1 sample of data that's encouraging. 

More good news:

All 3,711 passengers on the Diamond Princess cruise ship were tested, 712 tested positive, and of those, 331 (46 percent) have never shown outward symptoms, according to Japan’s health agency, which has also been cited by the CDC.

Bad news for unknowing transmission, but:

Non-symptomatic people can spread the disease, but, “we know that the virus is much more likely to spread from person to person if the infected one is showing symptoms,”

Based on some of the advances in vaccine development using CRISPR tech, I'm thinking we'll see better & quicker responses to pandemics in the future. There are many good things that will inevitably result from this terrible situation. Maybe we'll get ahead of them, even. 

Anyone have stats to show how many untested samples there are left? You can't take these numbers at face value unless you know how many real time new cases there are (vs backlog cases). 

As long as this thing doesn't mutate a ton the vaccine, when developed, will take care of it for many, many years w/boosters  - similar to MMR, Tdap, etc. That's the hope and a good - case scenario. 

In light of the current virus situation, it's smart to both support the American people directly via checks and unemployment boosters, as well as providing incentives to both small and large corporations to keep their employees by supplementing a percentage of their income. It takes a large amount of cash ($500B+) to do this - in order to keep things as close to normal as possible when this virus is behind us. Even the Democrats will support this...all the other stuff is just partisan fluff and not necessary at this time. I think there should've been a part 1 and part 2 with the partisan fluff in part 2.

9 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Yes, but with any sickness/disease. You only get tested when you're showing symptoms. My mom went to the doctor with a bad sinus infection Jan 2019 that would not go away. 1 week later she had stage 4 cancer near her brain. There are lots of people walking around with cancer, hypertension, etc... that don't know about it.

So it's very likely the true mortality rate for cancers are too high then. Similarly, until there is broad based testing for Covid 19 we won't know the true mortality rate.

Just read your edits, makes sense.