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  1. 46 minutes ago, TimB said:

    Not sure I’m buying the temperature observations at PIT this morning. Jumped from 59 to 67 between the 7 and 8 am hourly observations. Everywhere else seemed to stay steady.

    Looks like the nearby personal weather stations had a similar jump at that time. Possible heat burst from collapsing showers? This one Imperial went up above 65F and since cratered below 59F.

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  2. 2 minutes ago, TimB said:

    Overperformed our way to a 3rd 80 at PIT today. None of the days were forecast to get there.

    This time of the year, I feel like you've got to add a good 3-5 degrees to whatever they are forecasting to account for the lack of vegetation if there's any chance of appreciable sunshine. I'm sure once we get to summer, a lot of those 90-degree forecasts will stall at 88-89 though.

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  3. 5 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said:

    This projection has worked out pretty good. Currently, PIT is at 55.1F for the MTD - up to ninth place. With today factored in, that should rise to around 55.8F, which would be good for 5th warmest for the MTD.

    Also, up to third place on the YTD rankings in the threaded record. A full 0.5F warmer than 2012, and 0.6F warmer than last year.

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    If we compare this to some cities in the Upper South, you can see the last two years, this period has been about on par for what would have been deemed normal for the lower elevations of northeast Tennessee and southwest Virginia, and well within the limits of normal variability in a place like Knoxville, Tennessee. This is surprising to me because this is heavily weighted toward winter, which tends to be the time of the year when the south is much warmer than western Pennsylvania.

    In the 30-year period from 1956-1985, only three years were warmer at Charleston, West Virginia [and only 5 were warmer than the same period in 2023 at PIT].

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    Similar story at Roanoke, Virginia. Only 10 of 30 years had a warmer YTD than Pittsburgh in the period from 1956-1985. And last year too would have placed solidly around the median value.

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    In the Tri-Cities area of Tennessee, only 10 of 30 years had a warmer YTD than this year at Pittsburgh. And last year would have been around the median value.

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  4. Sorry for the off-topic post. But I was trying to figure out whether Pennsylvania is the best state, and I noticed that U.S. News and World Report has us at only 40th best [in other words, 11th worst]. Do you guys think this is a fair ranking? Why is it so low? Pennsylvania is the 5th most populous state, has plenty of natural beauty and a mild climate.

    Link: U.S. News and World Report Ranking for Pennsylvania

  5. 42 minutes ago, TheNiño said:

    Can anyone tell me what I just saw over Lake Michigan? Genuinely asking. Waterspouts? Scud clouds. Something else? Genuinely curious I’m not as bright as most of you in here lol 

     

    Not sure. Almost looks like a fog bank getting sucked up in updrafts. Is that possible?

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  6. On 4/11/2024 at 9:06 AM, TheClimateChanger said:

    Currently running 4.6F above normal for the month, with a mean temperature of 52.2F. A rather pedestrian [compared to some recent periods] 24th warmest overall in the threaded record, and 13th warmest at KPIT, for the first 10 days of April.

    With the warm pattern in place, I projected forward through the 17th using the official NWS forecast for KPIT [with an adjustment for tomorrow for a likely midnight high temperature] and found the month to date mean temperature is projected to increase to around 55.9F by April 17th. Should that come to fruition, it would be the 5th warmest April 1 to April 17th period in the threaded record, and second only to 2010 at KPIT. Looks like a decent shot for a top 10 warmest April unless there is a cooldown at the end of the month.

    This projection has worked out pretty good. Currently, PIT is at 55.1F for the MTD - up to ninth place. With today factored in, that should rise to around 55.8F, which would be good for 5th warmest for the MTD.

    Also, up to third place on the YTD rankings in the threaded record. A full 0.5F warmer than 2012, and 0.6F warmer than last year.

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  7. 13 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

    Interesting. I don't see much evidence for this, but [assuming you are using data from first-order sites to draw this conclusion] it seems to coincide with the move to automated weather observing systems. 

    Based on a study of 76 first-order sites from September 1, 1994 to August 31, 1995, ASOS averaged +0.79F COOLER* than the temperatures measured from conventional hygrothermometers - more specifically 0.90F COOLER for daytime maxima and 0.66F COOLER for overnight minima. Of the 76 sites studied, all but nine had a cooling bias with the installation of the ASOS. The study estimated +0.53F as a systemic bias, with an additional +0.37F bias due to improper solar shielding in the conventional hygrothermometer in the daytime, and an additional bias of +0.13F [but variable] for overnight temperatures resulting from the move of the station from sites close to airport buildings to more remote areas of the airport by the runways.

    What's interesting to me if you look at the temperature traces from first order sites today, it's warmed so much that this step change of nearly 1F is not even detectable. Can't help but wonder if the change in instrumentation isn't at play here if the data truly shows a decrease in heatwave length. It's certainly WAY hotter nowadays than it used to be in the summertime.

    Source: https://climate.colostate.edu/pdfs/climo_rpt_96_2.pdf

    Edit: Sorry, originally had warmer here. Just got the comparison mixed up, should read cooler.

    As a follow-up, this looks to be something specific to NYC (Central Park) ASOS. In addition to switching to an automated system at Central Park, they've also allowed a veritable jungle to encroach on the site in contravention of standard siting rules. So I would say it probably reflects a more substantial warm-season daytime cooling bias at NYC.

    9 of the 20 longest streaks of 90+ at EWR are from the 21st century.

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    And 10 of 20 at LGA.

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  8. On 4/11/2024 at 5:59 PM, LibertyBell said:

    it's why our summers don't have the length of heatwaves they used to.  Look at the length of heatwaves from the 50s to the 90s vs what passes for heatwave now-- the differences are eyeopening.

     

    Interesting. I don't see much evidence for this, but [assuming you are using data from first-order sites to draw this conclusion] it seems to coincide with the move to automated weather observing systems. 

    Based on a study of 76 first-order sites from September 1, 1994 to August 31, 1995, ASOS averaged +0.79F COOLER* than the temperatures measured from conventional hygrothermometers - more specifically 0.90F COOLER for daytime maxima and 0.66F COOLER for overnight minima. Of the 76 sites studied, all but nine had a cooling bias with the installation of the ASOS. The study estimated +0.53F as a systemic bias, with an additional +0.37F bias due to improper solar shielding in the conventional hygrothermometer in the daytime, and an additional bias of +0.13F [but variable] for overnight temperatures resulting from the move of the station from sites close to airport buildings to more remote areas of the airport by the runways.

    What's interesting to me if you look at the temperature traces from first order sites today, it's warmed so much that this step change of nearly 1F is not even detectable. Can't help but wonder if the change in instrumentation isn't at play here if the data truly shows a decrease in heatwave length. It's certainly WAY hotter nowadays than it used to be in the summertime.

    Source: https://climate.colostate.edu/pdfs/climo_rpt_96_2.pdf

    Edit: Sorry, originally had warmer here. Just got the comparison mixed up, should read cooler.

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  9. Now up to third place all time for April precipitation since 1836. The record is 9.27" from 1852, which was observed at Allegheny Arsenal in present-day Lawrenceville by the U.S. Army Signal Corps. The highest total since the formation of the Weather Bureau [now National Weather Service] is 8.11" in 1901 from the downtown city office. With about two weeks left in the month, the current tally is 7.63 inches. Surprisingly, it's been quite a while (1987) since we had an April on this list (although 1998 & 2011 saw 5.00" and 5.13" respectively).

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    Source: https://www.weather.gov/media/pbz/records/prec.pdf

     

  10. Flash Flood Warning
    OHC029-081-PAC003-007-019-073-125-WVC009-029-120430-
    /O.EXT.KPBZ.FF.W.0006.000000T0000Z-240412T0430Z/
    /00000.0.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/
    
    BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
    Flash Flood Warning
    National Weather Service Pittsburgh PA
    632 PM EDT Thu Apr 11 2024
    
    The National Weather Service in Pittsburgh has extended the
    
    * Flash Flood Warning for...
      Southeastern Columbiana County in east central Ohio...
      Northeastern Jefferson OH County in east central Ohio...
      Allegheny County in southwestern Pennsylvania...
      Northwestern Washington County in southwestern Pennsylvania...
      Southern Butler County in west central Pennsylvania...
      Beaver County in western Pennsylvania...
      Southern Lawrence County in western Pennsylvania...
      Brooke County in northern West Virginia...
      Hancock County in northern West Virginia...
    
    * Until 1230 AM EDT.
    
    * At 632 PM EDT, local law enforcement reported thunderstorms
      producing heavy rain across the warned area. Between 0.8 and 1.5
      inches of rain have fallen. Additional rainfall amounts of 1 to 2
      inches are possible in the warned area. Flash flooding is already
      occurring.
    
      HAZARD...Life threatening flash flooding. Thunderstorms
               producing flash flooding.
    
      SOURCE...Law enforcement reported significant flooding in
               Oakdale. Roads were closed, and a water rescue occured
               with a vehicle stuck in flood waters in Oakdale.
    
      IMPACT...Life threatening flash flooding of creeks and streams,
               urban areas, highways, streets and underpasses.
    
    * Some locations that will experience flash flooding include...
      Pittsburgh, Penn Hills, Mount Lebanon, Bethel Park, Ross Township,
      McCandless Township, Monroeville, Cranberry, Moon Township,
      McMurray, Weirton, McKeesport, Steubenville, Butler, Franklin
      Park, East Liverpool, Aliquippa, Canonsburg, Beaver Falls and
      Monaca.
    
    PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
    
    Turn around, don`t drown when encountering flooded roads. Most flood
    deaths occur in vehicles.
    
    &&
    
    LAT...LON 4090 8052 4096 8051 4083 7969 4033 7984
          4026 8030 4034 8079 4090 8054
    
    FLASH FLOOD...OBSERVED
    FLASH FLOOD DAMAGE THREAT...CONSIDERABLE
    
    $$
    
    WM
  11. 7 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said:

    Here are the numbers to beat for a Top 10 warm April. Need to have a final mean temperature at or above 55.3F. KPIT does reasonably well here compared to some other months, with 4 of the current top 10 [1954, 1955, 2010, and the record warmest in 2017].

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    Also, the wettest first 10 days of April on record. This doesn't include the approximately 1/2-inch that's fallen today. We may have a top 10 wettest April on lock by midnight.

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    Looking at the weather records, there has only been one year with an April among both the 20 warmest and 20 wettest. April 1948 is 13th warmest in the threaded record (54.7F) and fourth wettest (6.03").

  12. On 4/10/2024 at 1:25 AM, GaWx said:

     

    TheCCer,

     Is the bolded really true?

    Credit: Chris Kuball for the following Des Moines data from the heart of the Corn Belt

                ++++++++++++++++

    “Out of those top 21 longest stretches of a 100+ Heat Index, only 5 have occurred since 2000.

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    It does not go back to prior to 1936 but there were several other Dust Bowl years prior to 1936 with extreme heat in IA, as well as previous decades with extreme heat. 

    Decade and # of times on the list

    30's-1(doesn't include the very hot years 1930-35)

    40s-1

    50s-2

    60s-1

    70s-4

    80s-5

    90s-2

    00s-1

    10s-3

    20s-1.

    In fact, last year, 2023  getting back up there in the top 21,  stopped the longest streak of NOT having a year in the top 21 (11 years from 2012-2023)."

     The above doesn't suggest an increase in long dangerously high heat index streaks at Des Moines over the last few decades. If anything, there was a peak in the 70s to 80s.

     So, with regard to the longest 100+ HI streaks at Des Moines, where's the beef?

     

    July 1934 was very similar to 1936 at Des Moines, Iowa, albeit a couple of degrees cooler.

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    I took the given temperatures and relative humidity values for 7 am, 12 noon, and 7 pm, to create the following tables, for the period from July 14 through July 31. Note that the value for 7 pm on July 16, 1934 (101F) appears to be a scrivener's error, as the observed high temperature was only 96F on that date. It may have been intended to read 91F, but in the table below I had used the given value.

    As you can see, there was a stretch of 7 straight days of 100F+ heat indices, which would have nearly certainly extended into the 25th for an eighth straight day if we had more data to confirm. Taken literally, this would also match the 11 of 12 stretch from 1999; however, as noted the value for 7 pm on the 16th appears to be incorrect. And the humidity was otherwise too low for a heat index of 100F or better given the actual high of 96F.

    But overall, the heat index values are not that crazy considering this is probably the worst heat wave on record in Des Moines. Heat warning criteria would not have been met on any date. While we think of heat index as additive, most days during this stretch it would have actually resulted in a reading below the dry bulb temperature.

    Also, of note, the calculated dewpoint of 39F at 7 pm on the 28th would be among the lowest ever observed at Des Moines in the month of July. There has never been a dewpoint below 40F observed in the month of July since July 30, 1936 (see chart below for lowest hourly readings from 1936 to the present). Even a dew point below 50F would be exceptionally rare today, and yet this value was achieved on numerous dates in this stretch - including some of the record-breaking hot days.

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    Figure 1. Calculated dewpoints and heat index values at Des Moines, from July 14-July 31, 1934.

     

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    Figure 2. Lowest hourly dew point temperature readings at Des Moines in the month of July (1936-present).

  13. Currently running 4.6F above normal for the month, with a mean temperature of 52.2F. A rather pedestrian [compared to some recent periods] 24th warmest overall in the threaded record, and 13th warmest at KPIT, for the first 10 days of April.

    With the warm pattern in place, I projected forward through the 17th using the official NWS forecast for KPIT [with an adjustment for tomorrow for a likely midnight high temperature] and found the month to date mean temperature is projected to increase to around 55.9F by April 17th. Should that come to fruition, it would be the 5th warmest April 1 to April 17th period in the threaded record, and second only to 2010 at KPIT. Looks like a decent shot for a top 10 warmest April unless there is a cooldown at the end of the month.

  14. 13 hours ago, GaWx said:

     

    TheCCer,

     Is the bolded really true?

    Credit: Chris Kuball for the following Des Moines data from the heart of the Corn Belt

                ++++++++++++++++

    “Out of those top 21 longest stretches of a 100+ Heat Index, only 5 have occurred since 2000.

    IMG_9561.thumb.jpeg.b6a4dcd880d3e17e71a3066262195bc4.jpeg
     

    It does not go back to prior to 1936 but there were several other Dust Bowl years prior to 1936 with extreme heat in IA, as well as previous decades with extreme heat. 

    Decade and # of times on the list

    30's-1(doesn't include the very hot years 1930-35)

    40s-1

    50s-2

    60s-1

    70s-4

    80s-5

    90s-2

    00s-1

    10s-3

    20s-1.

    In fact, last year, 2023  getting back up there in the top 21,  stopped the longest streak of NOT having a year in the top 21 (11 years from 2012-2023)."

     The above doesn't suggest an increase in long dangerously high heat index streaks at Des Moines over the last few decades. If anything, there was a peak in the 70s to 80s.

     So, with regard to the longest 100+ HI streaks at Des Moines, where's the beef?

     

    So, yes, to answer your question, I do believe the bolded statement to be true and have presented data to support it. But I should add that I was using extreme values of 105F and 110F. It is true there isn't as significant of an upward trend in hours with heat indices at or above 100F, but these are more run-of-the-mill values for Des Moines in the summertime. I will grant you that consecutive days of 100F+ can be just as dangerous, but the statement you quoted is misleading by focusing solely on consecutive stretches rather than total number of days [plus ignoring increase at higher HX values].

    It also inaccurately claims that last year ended the longest stretch with no consecutive periods of 5 days or more with 100F+ heat indices at Des Moines. This is false and rebutted by the very data submitted. There are no such stretches indicated between 1936 and 1949, which is a longer period [13 years] than 2012 to 2023 [11 years].

    So I would rate Kuball's statement as misleading, and the claim that last year ended the longest stretch with no 5-day plus heat waves [using consecutive days of 100F+ HX] as pants-on-fire false. The very data he submitted shows the longest stretch to have occurred from July 15, 1936 until June 30, 1949 - a period of nearly 13 years.

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