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1-17-16 Winter Storm


John1122

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It definitely came north. Still has very little wintry weather in TN

It has the most unimpressive precip shield for a gulf low in model history, It had the low 100 miles south of New Orleans to Jacksonville and barely put precip on the coast. I don't buy that precip map with that track.

 

Also, the Euro came north by several hundred miles.

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I'm really sort of in amazement that the GFS is showing at least a some precip 48 hours out, and hadn't completely lost the idea of qpf over at least parts of the valley this close to the event.  I do also wonder as John mentions not trusting precip shield extent as we see every winter under modeled precip shields from Gulf Lows.  So what if GFS is right, and the precip shield is also classically under modeled we could be on the heels of a major flizzard...   A surprise possible, albeit minor surprise but a surprise nonetheless?

 

 

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MRX SPS issued regarding storm:

 

 

 

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WWUS84 KMRX 152019
SPSMRX

SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MORRISTOWN TN
319 PM EST FRI JAN 15 2016

NCZ060-061-TNZ012>018-035>047-067>074-081>087-098>102-VAZ001-002-
005-006-008-161000-
CHEROKEE-CLAY-SCOTT TN-CAMPBELL-CLAIBORNE-HANCOCK-HAWKINS-
SULLIVAN-JOHNSON-MORGAN-ANDERSON-UNION-GRAINGER-HAMBLEN-
NORTHWEST COCKE-COCKE SMOKY MOUNTAINS-NORTHWEST GREENE-
SOUTHEAST GREENE-WASHINGTON TN-UNICOI-NORTHWEST CARTER-
SOUTHEAST CARTER-ROANE-LOUDON-KNOX-JEFFERSON-NW BLOUNT-
BLOUNT SMOKY MOUNTAINS-NORTH SEVIER-SEVIER SMOKY MOUNTAINS-
SEQUATCHIE-BLEDSOE-RHEA-MEIGS-MCMINN-NORTHWEST MONROE-
SOUTHEAST MONROE-MARION-HAMILTON-BRADLEY-WEST POLK-EAST POLK-LEE-
WISE-SCOTT-RUSSELL-WASHINGTON-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...MURPHY...HAYESVILLE...ONEIDA...
LA FOLLETTE...TAZEWELL...SNEEDVILLE...ROGERSVILLE...KINGSPORT...
BRISTOL...MOUNTAIN CITY...WARTBURG...CLINTON...OAK RIDGE...
MAYNARDVILLE...RUTLEDGE...MORRISTOWN...NEWPORT...COSBY...
GREENEVILLE...CEDAR CREEK...JOHNSON CITY...ERWIN...ELIZABETHTON...
ROAN MOUNTAIN...KINGSTON...LENOIR CITY...KNOXVILLE...DANDRIDGE...
MARYVILLE...CADES COVE...SEVIERVILLE...GATLINBURG...DUNLAP...
PIKEVILLE...DAYTON...DECATUR...ATHENS...MADISONVILLE...
COKER CREEK...JASPER...CHATTANOOGA...CLEVELAND...BENTON...
DUCKTOWN...JONESVILLE...WISE...NORTON...GATE CITY...LEBANON...
ABINGDON
319 PM EST FRI JAN 15 2016 /219 PM CST FRI JAN 15 2016/

...LIGHT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS POSSIBLE ACROSS PARTS OF EAST
TENNESSEE...SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA AND SOUTHWEST NORTH CAROLINA LATE
SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY MORNING...

A STORM SYSTEM MAY BRING LIGHT SNOWFALL LATE SATURDAY NIGHT AND
SUNDAY MORNING ACROSS PARTS OF EAST TENNESSEE...SOUTHWEST NORTH
CAROLINA...AND SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA. LIGHT SNOW WILL BEGIN AFTER
MIDNIGHT ACROSS SOUTHWEST NORTH CAROLINA...THEN SPREAD NORTH ACROSS
EAST TENNESSEE AND SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA. THE SNOWFALL WILL GENERALLY
BE EAST OF INTERSTATE 75.

SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF 1 TO POSSIBLY 2 INCHES ARE EXPECTED ACROSS
THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF THE FAR EASTERN TENNESSEE MOUNTAINS.
SNOWFALL OF 1/2 TO 1 INCH ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS NORTHEAST TENNESSEE
AND SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA...INCLUDING THE TRI-CITIES. ACROSS THE
CENTRAL VALLEY... INCLUDING KNOXVILLE AND MORRISTOWN...SNOW
ACCUMULATIONS UP TO 1/2 INCH ARE POSSIBLE.

THE LIGHT SNOW WILL END OR DIMINISH BY NOON SUNDAY. THE MAIN
CONCERN WILL BE AREAS OF SNOW AND ICE COVERED ROADWAYS SUNDAY
MORNING...ESPECIALLY ACROSS BRIDGES AND OVERPASSES.

PLEASE STAY TUNED TO NOAA WEATHER RADIO AND OTHER LOCAL MEDIA FOR
FURTHER DETAILS OR UPDATES.

 

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MRX AFD:

 

 

 

LONG TERM (SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY)...

MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT IN PULLING A FAST MOVING SHORT-WAVE
AND ASSOCIATED JET MAX ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST UNITED STATES AND
SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS. A PERIOD OF UPPER LEVEL LIFT ASSOCIATED WITH
THE JET MAX WILL DEVELOP AN AREA OF LIGHT SNOW FROM SOUTHWEST NORTH
CAROLINA NORTHWARD ACROSS THE NORTHERN/CENTRAL AREAS OF EAST
TENNESSEE...AND SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA. SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF 1 TO 2
INCHES MOUNTAINS...1/2 TO 1 INCH ACROSS THE TRI-CITIES...TO AROUND
1/2 INCH KNOXVILLE AND MORRISTOWN. PLAN ON HIGHLIGHTING WITHIN THE
HWO AND SPS.

FOR MONDAY AND TUESDAY...SURFACE RIDGING AND DRY NORTHWEST FLOW WILL
PRODUCE DRY AND COLD CONDITIONS. NEXT SYSTEM WILL MOVE ACROSS THE
AREA WEDNESDAY. THIS SYSTEM WILL ALSO BE FAST MOVING AND TYPE OF
PRECIPITATION WILL DEPEND A LOT ON LOW PRESSURE TRACK. WILL NEED TO
MONITOR THIS SYSTEM FOR POTENTIAL OF WINTRY PRECIPITATION FOR MID-
WEEK.

 

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HUN AFD:

 

 

 

THERE`S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A NWD SHIFT IN THE MODEL BIASES WITH
REGARD TO THE NEXT UPPER TROUGH AXIS AND ASSOCIATED SFC WAVE MAKING
ITS WAY EWD OUT OF THE WRN GULF LATE SAT AFTERNOON/EVENING. LATEST
MODEL SUITES NOW SUGGEST A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THIS ENERGY/MOISTURE
SPREADING NWD SAT NIGHT
...AND PERHAPS AFFECTING PARTS OF THE LOCAL
AREA...AS SIG COLDER AIR BEGINS TO STREAM NWD INTO THE REGION. THERE
MAY BE ENOUGH TRAILING MOISTURE IN PLACE TO ALLOW FOR A BRIEF PERIOD
OF LIGHT SNOW...MAINLY NEAR/AFTER MIDNIGHT...ALBEIT THE CHC WILL BE
FAIRLY LOW FOR NOW. HOWEVER...THIS CHC MAY INCREASE TONIGHT INTO SAT
IF SUCCESSIVE MODEL RUNS CONTINUE TO SUGGEST THIS SAME SCENARIO WITH
MORE OF THE ENERGY/MOISTURE SPREADING NWD THAN PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT.
LITTLE IF ANY ACCUM IS XPCTED GIVEN A RATHER WARM SOIL TEMP IN PLACE
AT THIS POINT.

 

BMX AFD:

 

 

 

A PARTIAL PHASE OF THE SHORTWAVES IS NOW INDICATED BY ALL
OPERATIONAL MODELS...AND MORE PHASING REMAINS POSSIBLE.
WITH THE
WAY THIS SYSTEM HAS TRENDED OVER THE LAST 24-48 HOURS...WE HAVE
TO REMAIN OPEN TO THE POSSIBILITY OF A MUCH STRONGER SURFACE LOW
AND MORE WELL-DEVELOPED PRECIP SHIELD ACROSS THE INLAND DEEP
SOUTH.
YESTERDAY`S NORTHERN OUTLIERS OF THE ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEMBERS
ARE NOW SIMILAR TO THE SOLUTION OF THE OPERATIONAL MODEL. NOW
THESE NORTHERN OUTLIERS ARE EVEN FARTHER NORTH AND DEEPER WITH
SOME MEMBERS DOWN TO 989 MB IN THE EXTREME NORTHERN GULF OF
MEXICO. WHILE IT DOES NOT SEEM LIKELY THAT THESE SOLUTIONS WOULD
VERIFY...THERE IS A NON-ZERO CHANCE THEY MIGHT.
ACCORDINGLY WITH
THE NORTHWARD SHIFT IN MODELS...POPS HAVE BEEN RAISED
SUBSTANTIALLY FOR 06-12Z SUNDAY WITH QPF AMOUNTS RANGING FROM
0.01-0.20 INCH FROM NORTHWEST TO SOUTHEAST. THIS SITUATION WILL
HAVE TO BE MONITORED CLOSELY DUE TO THE POTENTIAL FOR DYNAMIC AND
DIABATIC COOLING IN THE EVENT THAT HEAVIER THAN FORECAST PRECIP
FALLS ALONG AND NORTH OF I-20...WHERE THERMAL PROFILES WOULD
SUPPORT RAIN CHANGING TO SNOW...BUT NO ACCUMULATIONS HAVE BEEN
INCLUDED IN THIS UPDATE. THIS IS AN UNUSUAL SITUATION TO BE IN
LESS THAN 48 HOURS OUT...AND ANOTHER SET OF MODEL RUNS IS NEEDED
TO REMOVE THE UNCERTAINTY.
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The SREF has 11 members showing at least .1 inches of precip. That's 42% of the SREF members. I couldn't get the snow plots to load.

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If you would of told me back in the summer that we would have a sub 1000mb low tracking across the FL panhandle with enough cold air I would be ecstatic. This is definitely a weird storm. I don't remember many storms with this track not giving us snow. 12z GFS is really close for us and the NAM is heading in the right direction. Unfortunately we are running out of time.

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18Z NAM composite reflectivity take it for what its worth.  I'm guessing warm wet ground and relatively drier air in place (though currently 71% humidity imby).  If you went with just the composite reflectivity of the NAM we would get several hours of light snow across a large portion of the valley, even moderate at times the further east you are.  This is going to be very interesting to see play out.  

 

 

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18Z NAM composite reflectivity take it for what its worth.  I'm guessing warm wet ground and relatively drier air in place (though currently 71% humidity imby).  If you went with just the composite reflectivity of the NAM we would get several hours of light snow across a large portion of the valley, even moderate at times the further east you are.  This is going to be very interesting to see play out.  

Yeah humidity is 85% here in JC. Seems pretty humid for being 36 degrees. The air definitively doesn't feel dry here. Clouds on satellite are coming from the Gulf. This will be very interesting to see play out indeed. Especially considering the model mayhem beforehand.

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