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tornadojay

March 31st - Potential Wintry Precip (formerly the March Torch Thread)

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[quote name='ag3' timestamp='1332815963' post='1468499']
A lot of the boroughs have power lines above ground.
Ask Sundog how his area fared after the Queens Tornado a couple years ago.
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I know they do. They also have them underground too.

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[quote name='Brian5671' timestamp='1332852559' post='1468853']
Got down to 27 here...rising nicely now-hopefully not too much damage to the vegetation that has come out...
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Probably not. Hopefully it slows the bugs down, though. They were starting to come out last week.

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[quote name='Snow88' timestamp='1332853247' post='1468879']
6z gfs has troughiness in the long range.
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Post 200 hours -- yes. But in the meantime it's actually warmed a good bit for the early part of next week -- shifting the upper level gradient with the ULL over E Canada to the North and now showing 10 C 850 temps through NYC by Day 6-7.

[img]http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/AVN_6z/f162.gif[/img]

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I knew lower 20's was a pipe dream in Upton's forecast yesterday.... got down to 29 last night.. I knew there was no way lower 20's was happening. Even Albany only dipped down to 23 last night.. I was thinking 32 in the city, which was what LGA hit, but KNYC got down to 30. When the winds are up, you don't generally get too much temperature variation in the general NYC metro area.

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[quote name='tornadojay' timestamp='1332854447' post='1468914']
I knew lower 20's was a pipe dream in Upton's forecast yesterday.... got down to 29 last night.. I knew there was no way lower 20's was happening. Even Albany only dipped down to 23 last night.. I was thinking 32 in the city, which was what LGA hit, but KNYC got down to 30. When the winds are up, you don't generally get too much temperature variation in the general NYC metro area.
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Dipped to 23.9 here this morning..

KMGJ-- 26
KSWF-- 25

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[quote name='snywx' timestamp='1332854855' post='1468925']
Dipped to 23.9 here this morning..

KMGJ-- 26
KSWF-- 25
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It looks like pretty much from Orange county north up to Albany was generally in that 23-26 range. The one thing I've noticed where I live in Rockland is when the winds are up at night, I am generally within 2 degrees of NYC temps... almost never fails. If we went clear and calm, completely different story.

One day I want to a study purely on a 12 hour min forecast for my area and see how it verifies. I'm almost willing to bet that more than 75% of the time, it's a bust at least 5 degrees too low.

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what I'm saying with all of this is that I would like, one day, for Rockland county to be split into 2 zones. Although Rockland county is one of the smallest in NY state, it has a very sharp gradient of weather, especially in the winter. You go from areas like Palisades which is really just a few miles north of the GW bridge to a large area north and west with higher elevations near Bear Mountain and Harriman State Park.

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Yeah it is interesting, if we had gone calm last night I'm sure the city and immediate area would have only dropped another degree or two, while far N&W would have easily seen teens

[quote name='tornadojay' timestamp='1332855384' post='1468940']
It looks like pretty much from Orange county north up to Albany was generally in that 23-26 range. The one thing I've noticed where I live in Rockland is when the winds are up at night, I am generally within 2 degrees of NYC temps... almost never fails. If we went clear and calm, completely different story.

One day I want to a study purely on a 12 hour min forecast for my area and see how it verifies. I'm almost willing to bet that more than 75% of the time, it's a bust at least 5 degrees too low.
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Really warm SST's showing up off the coast after all the heat last week. B)

[attachment=61308:sst_anom-120325.gif]

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[quote name='bluewave' timestamp='1332865646' post='1469231']
Really warm SST's showing up off the coast after all the heat last week. B)

[attachment=61308:sst_anom-120325.gif]
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I think its a safe bet to say that this summer water temps on the south shore or long island and down jersey may be around 75-80 this summer. The SST's are already a few degrees above average.

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[quote name='tornadojay' timestamp='1332855865' post='1468954']
what I'm saying with all of this is that I would like, one day, for Rockland county to be split into 2 zones. Although Rockland county is one of the smallest in NY state, it has a very sharp gradient of weather, especially in the winter. You go from areas like Palisades which is really just a few miles north of the GW bridge to a large area north and west with higher elevations near Bear Mountain and Harriman State Park.
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The R/S line is almost always in Rockland.. Areas like Nyack/Orangeburg/Piermont etc.. have a similar climate to the Bronx & Upper Manhattan where areas like Stony Pt/Bear Mt/Sloatsburg resemble more of an inland climate. If I had to guess I would say areas near Bear Mtn with elevation above 700' avg around 45" a yr of snowfall where areas closer to the TZ avg around 25-30"..

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[quote name='bluewave' timestamp='1332865646' post='1469231']
Really warm SST's showing up off the coast after all the heat last week. B)

[attachment=61308:sst_anom-120325.gif]
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While it looks good if we can get anything in our backyard tropically speaking the mda has temps below normal for the first time in years, that in conjunction with a slight nino enso and its looking like a below normal tropical season.

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[quote name='Plfdwxdude' timestamp='1332874701' post='1469537']
The lowest humidity I could find in the area is 10% at JFK. I don't know if I've seen single digits around here but I'm sure it can happen
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It has happened before.

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Its dry:

[url="http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KNYHOWAR4"]http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KNYHOWAR4[/url]

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