Climate denial has nothing to do with the topic we're talking about so i don't know why you keep bringing it up in this conversation. Your first statement was incorrect in which i wanted to point it out to you. You made it out as if we are worst off then 2012 which is not true. Volume is around 2013 I'm not denying that as both Piomas and Cryosat show. Hycom does have flaws I'm not saying its worthless but they have been talked about many times on here in the past.