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January 2016 Disco/Obs: A New Year, A New Pattern


Rjay

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I think you leave the banter thread for forecasting patterns etc all winter and only pull up individual threads out for threats .

Lot of ideas are already in the for Jan I think you lose the continuity.

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Leave the banter thread for garbage. Too many good posts getting burried. Pattern and obs in here. Specific storm threat threads eventually.

You're welcome to move some of your posts in here.

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Leave the banter thread for garbage. Too many good posts getting burried. Pattern and obs in here. Specific storm threat threads eventually.

You're welcome to move some of your posts in here.

Yeah i agree as well, the banter thread is unfortunately a necessity...leave the typical bs'ing, whining, imby questions/thoughts etc in there. Have a monthly obs/discussion thread that contain actual meteorological posts, and when threats get far enough in, specific threat threads.

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January records from Central Park for reference...

January
NYC climate stats from Central Park...since 1870...
Decade averages...
decade...ave...high...low...ave/ max min max...min...snowfall...precipitation
1870's...30.3...37.5...23.8.........................68...-4......9.6"......3.29"
1880's...28.7...39.6...24.7......53.5.....4.3...65...-6......9.1"......4.12"
1890's...31.7...37.6...23.7......55.0.....9.0...64...-2......8.6"......3.46"
1900's...32.1...38.4...25.3......55.2.....7.5...64...-1......8.1"......3.07"
1910's...32.4...40.9...21.7......57.1.....6.6...69...-5......5.1"......3.77"
1920's...30.5...34.0...23.4......53.9.....4.6...62...-2......8.9"......3.52"
1930's...34.7...43.2...28.9......59.9.....9.7...70...-3......6.4"......3.98"
1940's...31.0...38.6...25.0......56.2.....7.6...63....0......7.7"......3.20"
1950's...33.7...41.4...28.5......58.7...10.8...72....0......5.0"......2.75"
1960's...31.8...37.4...26.7......55.4.....8.6...68...-1......7.1"......2.37"
1970's...30.6...37.3...22.1......57.5.....6.0...66...-2......8.0"......4.57"
1980's...31.3...37.4...26.1......57.4.....6.8...63...-2......7.9"......3.26"
1990's...34.8...41.4...25.6......60.9...11.2...66...-2......6.1"......4.47"
2000's...33.1...40.9...24.7......60.8.....9.8...72....1......7.2"......3.19"

2010's...32.2...37.3...28.6......57.8.....9.1.. 62.....4...13.8"......3.53"
1870 to
2009......31.9...39.0...25.0......57.0.....7.9...67...-2......7.5"......3.50"

1980 to
2009......33.1...39.9...25.5......59.7.....9.3...67...-1......7.1"......3.64"

Warmest........Coldest........Wettest........Driest
43.2 1932...21.7 1918...10.52" 1979...0.58" 1981
41.4 1990...22.1 1977.....8.27" 1978...0.66" 1970
41.4 1950...23.0 1888.....7.94" 1915...0.77" 1955
40.9 1913...23.4 1920.....7.54" 1936...0.94" 1876
40.9 2006...23.7 1912.....6.99" 1999...0.96" 1896
40.3 1933...23.7 1893.....6.99" 1923...1.00" 1985
40.2 1937...23.8 1875.....6.46" 1982...1.10" 1969
40.0 1998...24.7 2004.....6.12" 1891...1.28" 1916
39.9 2002...24.7 1884.....6.04" 1949...1.39" 1967
39.6 1880...24.7 1881.....5.97" 1937...1.54" 1956

warmest temperatures
72 1950 1/26
72 2007 1/6
70 1932 1/14
69 1916 1/27
69 2002 1/29
68 1932 1/13
68 1876 1/2
68 1967 1/24
Coldest temperatures
-6 1882 1/24
-5 1914 1/14
-4 1918 1/1
-4 1879 1/3
-4 1904 1/5
-3 1918 1/4
-3 1914 1/13
-3 1875 1/10
-3 1936 1/23
-2 1994 1/19
-2 1985 1/21
-2 1977 1/17
-2 1925 1/28
-2 1896 1/6
Coldest monthly max...
41 1881
44 1977
45 1883
45 1925
45 1948
46 1971
47 1941
47 1877
Warmest monthly min...
25 1937
24 1990
24 1932
21 1993
21 2002
21 1953
20 1949
Greatest monthly snowfall...
36.0" 2011
27.4" 1925
26.1" 1996
24.5" 1923
23.6" 1935
20.5" 1877
20.3" 1978
18.4" 1905
17.5" 1882
17.3" 1879
17.3" 2004
BIGGEST SNOWSTORMS...
20.2" 1996 1/7-8
19.0" 2011 1/26-27
13.8" 2005 1/22-23
13.6" 1978 1/19-20
13.0" 1877 1/1-2
13.0" 1879 1/15-16
13.0" 1935 1/23-24
12.5" 1964 1/12-13
11.5" 1925 1/2
11.0" 1905 1/24-25
10.3" 2004 1/28
10.0" 1897 1/27-28
10.0" 1908 1/23-24
10.0" 1910 1/14-15
9.9"...1961 1/19-20

9.8"...2015 1/26-27

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what's your point? that 5 day pattern is a dead ringer for feb 98. if you knew it looked bad you would have said, "this is a bad pattern but it's only 5 days" in your original post.

 

 

Sure it is a 5 day break inside 30 days . ( ALA feb 19 -22 Feb 15  ) Why would you compare a 5 day mean to a 1 month analog  .

What does week 2- 3 -5 and 6 look like ?  2015 ? 1978 ? 2010 ? 

Are those 4 weeks  not right smack in the middle of a strong NINO 

Imagine if we posted that ...

 

So whats your point  are 4 out those 5 weeks are NOT showing you a great pattern ? 

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The pattern truly does not look like anything to write home about next 4 weeks. Sure it's better than December, of course, let's get real December was +13. But it still looks subpar as far as winter patterns go and we are into the heart of winter.

How is this a subpar winter pattern?

gfs-ens_z500a_nhem_59.pnggem-ens_z500a_nhem_59.png That's a -AO/EPO/NAO, +PNA pattern. The pattern relaxes until about the 8th, but after that it's one of the best winter storm patterns for the east since 2009/2010 and 2010/2011.

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The pattern truly does not look like anything to write home about next 4 weeks. Sure it's better than December, of course, let's get real December was +13. But it still looks subpar as far as winter patterns go and we are into the heart of winter.

Not sure what you're looking at. The ensembles show the AO tanking after the first week of January. Whether it's s transient change remains to be seen but for you to say the pattern doesn't look good at all the next month is just bad analysis.

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How is this a subpar winter pattern?

gfs-ens_z500a_nhem_59.png

gem-ens_z500a_nhem_59.png That's a -AO/EPO/NAO, +PNA pattern. The pattern

relaxes until about the 8th, but after that it's one of the best winter storm patterns for the east since 2009/2010 and 2010/2011.

Agree. The pattern looks great mid month onward. I think some people in here are trolling. -AO and +Pna looks like a lock. Lets hope the nao follows. Seems like every met on the social media sites are really gungho on the pattern going forward ( HM,Mike ventrice and others.)
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CPC doesn't give anyone here a good pattern   

 

just sayin

 

WK34temp.gif

WK34prcp.gif

 

Right, the brown color is super hot which is bad and we want the blue color which is super cold. Also, the white color means no precipitation and the green means it's raining.

 

But what do the numbers mean?

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Right, the brown color is super hot which is bad and we want the blue color which is super cold. Also, the white color means no precipitation and the green means it's raining.

 

But what do the numbers mean?

(%) percentages just a wee bit higher at  55-60 % inside that contour --for example on the temp guidance

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