Steve Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Ok..i usually wail untill Oct 1st...call me a bit anxious...I have seen big varities in pre winter forecasts..Anywhere from mild to cold and snowy..Depending on how big this El Nino will be..Kinda of early...but never to early to disscuss winter!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianGuy Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 It's already a strong el nino. I'm thinking it will be a well warmer than average DJF for most of the subforum. Sent from my GT-N8010 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chambana Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 It's already a strong el nino. I'm thinking it will be a well warmer than average DJF for most of the subforum. Sent from my GT-N8010 Actually correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure it has even sustained "super Nino" status for a few weeks now. To be honest a milder than normal winter is okay with me. Give me a good storm before Christmas to set the tone, and 1-2 more 4-6" storms in January and February, and I'll be content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Actually correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure it has even sustained "super Nino" status for a few weeks now. To be honest a milder than normal winter is okay with me. Give me a good storm before Christmas to set the tone, and 1-2 more 4-6" storms in January and February, and I'll be content. Yeah, 3.4 has been in Super status on the weeklies for a while. The question is where the peak trimonthly reading ends up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 There's so much conflicting info on this coming winter I honestly don't know which way to go. Once you weed out the weenie posts,lots of great discussion on the new England forum in the winter thread (in addition to our thread here in the Lakes forum). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 welcome back Steve....I totally forgot it was about time for this thread again. Last winter the thread went 69 pages. I'm guessing it will be a 25 page thread this winter. We really are due for a boring mild winter. If we pull off a severe winter this year, in spite of the ElNino, than all bets are off. I'll be convinced we are entering into mini ice age lol. on the bright side we have JB and the farmers almanac on our side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachLB Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 JAMSTEC update is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 JAMSTEC update is out. Interesting look for a couple reasons. One, pretty large area of cool anomalies in the US. Two, it doesn't have that drier than average area in the Lakes/Ohio Valley that has shown up on a lot of other seasonal guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 welcome back Steve....I totally forgot it was about time for this thread again. Last winter the thread went 69 pages. I'm guessing it will be a 25 page thread this winter. We really are due for a boring mild winter. If we pull off a severe winter this year, in spite of the ElNino, than all bets are off. I'll be convinced we are entering into mini ice age lol. on the bright side we have JB and the farmers almanac on our side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Somehow Athens has managed at least one significant snowstorm or more per winter since I've come here. Hoping my last winter here continues the trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Somehow Athens has managed at least one significant snowstorm or more per winter since I've come here. Hoping my last winter here continues the trend. we need you to go to grad school at OSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 we need you to go to grad school at OSU.You have the second snowiest winter on record two years ago and that's still not good enough, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vespasian70 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Watch it be a normal winter with one biggie and lots of nickel and dime stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClicheVortex2014 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 welcome back Steve....I totally forgot it was about time for this thread again. Last winter the thread went 69 pages. I'm guessing it will be a 25 page thread this winter. We really are due for a boring mild winter. If we pull off a severe winter this year, in spite of the ElNino, than all bets are off. I'll be convinced we are entering into mini ice age lol. on the bright side we have JB and the farmers almanac on our side When aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 When aren't they? Bastardi probably ghost writes the Almanac's forecasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 When aren't they? JB? Never lol. But I can remember plenty of almanac forecasts for mild and/or low snow winters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianGuy Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 JB? Never lol. But I can remember plenty of almanac forecasts for mild and/or low snow winters. Nope I can't recall ever seeing this either. Cold winter outlooks sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Nope I can't recall ever seeing this either. Cold winter outlooks sell.I used to collect the almanacs. Guess I will have to dig them out and tell you exactly which years were predicted as subpar winters. I remember when I first discovered almanacs in the mid 1990s, it seemed like every single year they frustratingly forecast a mild winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianGuy Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 I used to collect the almanacs. Guess I will have to dig them out and tell you exactly which years were predicted as subpar winters. You don't have too... They were probably wrong anyway LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 You don't have too... They were probably wrong anyway LOL.The orange almanac "Farmers Almanac" is eerily, & I mean eerily on the mark with a LOT of their seasonal outlooks. The yellow "old farmers almanac" is more full of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 You have the second snowiest winter on record two years ago and that's still not good enough, eh? But it's all relative within the sub forum during a historic winter. For instance LAF picked up something like 250% their average snowfall 2 years ago, with places like Chicago and Detroit with similar HUGE departures. CMH only did about 175%. So yea, still not good enough lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianGuy Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 But it's all relative within the sub forum during a historic winter. For instance LAF picked up something like 250% their average snowfall 2 years ago, with places like Chicago and Detroit with similar HUGE departures. CMH only did about 175%. So yea, still not good enough lol. Any year with above av snowfall departures should be a good year. If you really like snow, you should move to a lake effect snow belt. I get dumped on every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Any year with above av snowfall departures should be a good year. If you really like snow, you should move to a lake effect snow belt. I get dumped on every year. I do agree for the most part....BUT....to each their own. I can tell you that Detroit has had above average snowfall in 7 of the last 8 winters, but yet I have heard PLENTY of complaining on here . I guess I should never say never, but I have a hard time believing ANYTHING will ever beat 2013-14 here. It was the textbook LONG, severe winter that is not supposed to be real. But then you have a winter like last year where we had deep snow on the ground for months yet snowfall itself was 30" LESS than 2007-08, which had more bare ground and nowhere near as deep of snowpack. Total snowfall is just one thing and how it is arrived at can make a difference to some on how great a winter was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrocks Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 The last super El Nino brought Louisville's biggest snowstorm even though we saw hardly any snow before or after and were in the 70's a week later. I wouldn't mind a warm winter with one big snowstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slow poke Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Any year with above av snowfall departures should be a good year. If you really like snow, you should move to a lake effect snow belt. I get dumped on every year. It's all relative within our sub forum it seems. The 80" or so London averages per season is about the same as the area where our cabin is at in northern MI and I don't feel it's all that much snow. The "dumped on" areas to me are the 150"+ ones in the UP but again, it's all relative. Growing up as a kid our family had a place on Lake Huron near Lexington MI in the thumb. I can remember watching all the dark lake effect clouds and snow hitting just on the otherside of the lake in Ontario near Grand Bend while the sun was out at our place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Any year with above av snowfall departures should be a good year. If you really like snow, you should move to a lake effect snow belt. I get dumped on every year. don't get me wrong...I love snow. I just like eating a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianGuy Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 It's all relative within our sub forum it seems. The 80" or so London averages per season is about the same as the area where our cabin is at in northern MI and I don't feel it's all that much snow. The "dumped on" areas to me are the 150"+ ones in the UP but again, it's all relative. Growing up as a kid our family had a place on Lake Huron near Lexington MI in the thumb. I can remember watching all the dark lake effect clouds and snow hitting just on the otherside of the lake in Ontario near Grand Bend while the sun was out at our place. It's certainly enough when it sticks around. Sent from my GT-N8010 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 It's certainly enough when it sticks around. Sent from my GT-N8010 The problem is everything is relative to where you live and how much snow you normally get, ie expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 It's all relative within our sub forum it seems. The 80" or so London averages per season is about the same as the area where our cabin is at in northern MI and I don't feel it's all that much snow. The "dumped on" areas to me are the 150"+ ones in the UP but again, it's all relative. Growing up as a kid our family had a place on Lake Huron near Lexington MI in the thumb. I can remember watching all the dark lake effect clouds and snow hitting just on the otherside of the lake in Ontario near Grand Bend while the sun was out at our place. A snowlover didn't site that cottage location. I always use snowmaps to find areas to browse cabins properties in northern Michigan. Anything east of I-75 is out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slow poke Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 A snowlover didn't site that cottage location. I always use snowmaps to find areas to browse cabins properties in northern Michigan. Anything east of I-75 is out of the question. For sure about the text in bold. My grandmother bought that place back in the 1950's and didn't tell my grandfather till she took him up there to see it. Pretty funny story really. The location was more about the drive from Detroit where they lived at the time with 8 kids and the fishing that Lake Huron offered. My grandfather was a snow lover for sure. He went out and bought a piece of property on 6 Mile Lake in northern lower MI right in the snow belt in the late 1960's right after he got into snowmobiling. If someone wanted a cabin for mostly playing in the snow they would have to go north of M28 in the UP I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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