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August 21-26 ROF Type Severe


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I figured I'd start this thread to cover the severe and heavy rain threat over the next few days along the boundary. I maybe should have left the end date open, but used an arbitrary date, as the models keep pushing back the ridge breaking down.

 

The first area of possible heavy rain is outlined below:

 

MESOSCALE PRECIPITATION DISCUSSION 0305NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD544 AM EDT THU AUG 21 2014 AREAS AFFECTED...CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN MN...WESTERN AND SOUTHERNWI...NORTHEAST IA...NORTHERN IL...NORTHWEST IN  CONCERNING...HEAVY RAINFALL...FLASH FLOODING POSSIBLE  VALID 210940Z - 211400Z SUMMARY...TRAINING CONVECTION AND A FEW CELL-MERGERS WILL FOSTER AFLASH FLOOD THREAT THROUGH THE MID-MORNING HOURS.DISCUSSION...THE LATEST IR SAT IMAGERY SHOWS A COLD-TOPPED MCSIMPACTING CNTRL/SRN MN ATTM...WITH THE MCS BEGINNING TO ADVANCEESEWD TWD SERN MN. MEANWHILE...A NW/SE ORIENTED BAND OF ELEVATEDCONVECTION IS SEEN IMPACTING SWRN WI...WHICH IS CONNECTED TO AGRADUAL INCREASE IN WARM ADVECTION VIA A MOIST/UNSTABLE SWLY LOWLVL JET INVOF A FRONTAL ZONE. THIS DOWNSTREAM CONVECTION MAY WELLBE GETTING INFLUENCED TO A DEGREE BY A DEVELOPING MCV ASSOCD WITHTHE MN CONVECTIVE SYSTEM.OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS...THE MCS OVER MN WILL ADVANCE ESEWD ALONGAND JUST NORTHEAST OF A WARM FRONT...WITH ADDITIONAL BANDS ORCLUSTERS OF CONVECTION EXPECTED TO ORGANIZE DOWNWIND OF THE MCSINVOLVING ESP SRN WI...NERN IL AND POSSIBLY FAR NWRN IN. THELATEST VAD WIND PROFILER DATA INDICATES 30 TO 40 KTS OF SWLY LOWLEVEL JET AND THIS WILL CONTINUE AT LEAST THROUGH ABOUT 12Z. THELARGER SCALE ENVIRONMENT WILL REMAIN CONDUCIVE FOR CELL MERGERSAND TRAINING GIVEN THE ORIENTATION OF THE ONGOING CONVECTION ANDEXPECTED PROPAGATION.THIS COUPLED WITH RAINFALL RATES OF UP TO 2 INCHES/HR WILL FAVORTHE POTENTIAL FOR FLASH FLOODING AT LEAST THROUGH THE MID-MORNINGHOURS. HOWEVER...THE LATEST HI-RES GUIDANCE INCLUDING THE 00ZNAM-CONEST AND 00Z NSSL-WRF WHICH BOTH HAVE A SOMEWHAT REASONABLEHANDLE ON THE MN MCS...SUGGEST THAT THE CONVECTION WILL TEND TOWEAKEN BEYOND 12Z. SO THE FLASH FLOOD THREAT SHOULD TEND TOCONTINUE FOR A FEW MORE HOURS AND THEN SUBSIDE.

And today's slight risk. I'm thinking probs may be increased in later forecasts. I love summertime nocturnal MCS's. :)

 

   DAY 1 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK     NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK   1233 AM CDT THU AUG 21 2014   VALID 211200Z - 221200Z   ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM THE UPPER MS VALLEY TO THE   OH VALLEY...   ...SUMMARY...   SCATTERED SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP FROM PORTIONS   OF THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY INTO THE OHIO VALLEY.  DAMAGING   WINDS AND LARGE HAIL ARE THE PRIMARY THREATS WITH THIS ACTIVITY.   ...UPPER MS VALLEY/OH VALLEY...   EARLY MORNING WV IMAGERY DEPICTS A TRANSITORY SHORT-WAVE TROUGH   EJECTING EWD ACROSS THE CNTRL DAKOTAS.  THIS FEATURE IS EXPECTED TO   TOP THE RIDGE OVER THE UPPER MS VALLEY EARLY IN THE PERIOD BEFORE   TURNING SEWD INTO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES REGION.  CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT   OF CONVECTION IS NOTED AHEAD OF THIS FEATURE AT MIDNIGHT FROM SERN   ND INTO NCNTRL SD.  THIS ACTIVITY SHOULD PROGRESS INTO SRN MN BY   12Z.   LATEST MODEL GUIDANCE SUPPORTS THE PROGRESSION OF SHORT WAVE INTO MN   BY DAYBREAK AND SFC WARM FRONT DRAPED ACROSS MN/SRN WI IS EXPECTED   TO MOVE LITTLE THROUGH THE PERIOD.  FOR THIS REASON EARLY MORNING   THUNDERSTORMS WILL LIKELY NOT DISSIPATE PRIOR TO DIURNALLY-ENHANCED   DESTABILIZATION.  MODEST NWLY FLOW...ON THE ORDER OF 30KT AT   500MB...APPEARS ADEQUATE FOR UPWARD GROWTH OF TSTMS AS THEY TRACK   ESEWD ALONG WARM FRONT.  FORECAST SOUNDINGS SUGGEST MODERATE   BUOYANCY WILL DEVELOP ACROSS MUCH OF THE WARM SECTOR FROM SERN SD   INTO THE OH VALLEY WHERE SBCAPE SHOULD EASILY EXCEED 3000 J/KG.    THERE IS SOME CONCERN THAT WARM FRONTAL CONVECTION COULD ORGANIZE   INTO MORE EXPANSIVE THUNDERSTORM CLUSTERS THAT COULD SURGE SEWD INTO   THE OH VALLEY DUE TO CONTRIBUTIONS OF FORWARD PROPAGATION.  AT THIS   TIME WILL ONLY INTRODUCE 15 PERCENT SEVERE PROBS FOR WIND AND HAIL   AS IT/S NOT REAL CLEAR HOW THIS CONVECTION WILL ULTIMATELY EVOLVE.   FARTHER WEST ACROSS THE CNTRL PLAINS...POST SHORT WAVE AIRMASS IS   FORECAST TO DESTABILIZE SIGNIFICANTLY FROM SERN SD INTO ERN NEB   WHERE SBCAPE COULD APPROACH 4000 J/KG.  WV IMAGERY AND MODEL   GUIDANCE DO NOT SUGGEST ANY MEANINGFUL DISTURBANCE INTO THIS REGION   DURING THE AFTERNOON/EVENING HOURS.  FOR THIS REASON IT APPEARS WEAK   LOW LEVEL CONVERGENCE AND DIURNAL HEATING WILL BE THE PRIMARY   MECHANISMS FOR POTENTIAL ISOLATED THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT.  WEAK   WARM ADVECTION ATOP THE BOUNDARY LAYER MAY ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO   ELEVATED CONVECTION AFTER DARK...MAINLY ACROSS IA.  LARGE HAIL/GUSTY   WINDS ARE THE MAIN THREATS WITH THIS ACTIVITY.[attachment=132938:day1otlk_1200.gif]
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Too much festering convection back through iowa for the boundary to make major headway imo....i'm satisfied for the month storm-wise with what i got this morning...but i just don't see it budging much without a dominant mcs clearing the boundary for movement...we'll see how it shakes out

 

 

it will shoot up and convection will initiate north of us this evening but i think it sinks south with ease overnight

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hair under 3 inches this morning from roughly 3am to 8am ... bringing the boy to school revealed all retention ponds are pretty high locally, but the ground looks like it could still possibly soak up a little more rain.  Anything moderate locally would prolly create some bigger problems than the minor nuisance problems this morning.

 

a decent outflow boundary headed south and east just SW of QC...I'm sure it will mix out and be overcome throughout the day....but convection still festering through iowa and even into western northern IL

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Tonight's action may well be too far north for you

 

 

you know i'm going to hedge south in this setup every time

 

LOT:

 

THE WESTERN WAVE OVER IA IS ONE OF A LITTLE MORE INTEREST AS THAT

COMES EASTWARD. HIGH RESOLUTION MODELS HAVE A SURPRISINGLY LARGE

SPREAD IN SOLUTIONS WITH THIS...WITH THE RAP BEING A FURTHER SOUTH

ONE. RADAR AND SATELLITE TRENDS ARE SUPPORTING THIS HOWEVER.

 

MKX:

 

I AM THINKING I WILL BE

SIGNIFICANTLY TAKING DOWN POPS ACROSS SOUTHERN WI FOR TONIGHT.

 

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Getting monsooned....just as school let out too lol

 

and this from the WP regarding heavy rain this evening....

 

 

NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD
259 PM EDT THU AUG 21 2014

 

AN ACTIVE CONVECTIVE PATTERN EXPECTED IN THE VICINITY OF A FRONTAL
BOUNDARY AND ASSOCIATED AXIS OF ABOVE AVERAGE PW VALUES---1 TO 2
STANDARD DEVIATIONS ABOVE THE MEAN---STRETCHING FROM THE MID MS
VALLEY/LOWER LAKES TOWARD THE UPPER MS VALLEY THIS PERIOD.
CONFIDENCE HAS DECREASED WITH RESPECT TO THE DETAILS OF THE TIMING
OF AREAS OF CONVECTION AS THERE IS LARGE MODEL TO MODEL
DIFFERENCES AND LARGE RUN TO RUN DIFFERENCES---ESPECIALLY IN THE
HI RES GUIDANCE WHICH OFTEN WILL DEPICT THESE ORGANIZED CONVECTIVE
REGIONS BETTER.  MOIST WEST SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW INTO THIS BOUNDARY
AND ENHANCED UVVS ASSOCIATED WITH SHORTWAVES MOVING ALONG THE
SOUTHERN EDGE OF THE WESTERLIES WILL SUPPORT ADDITIONAL CONVECTIVE
DEVELOPMENT ALONG THIS FRONT.  THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR TRAINING OF
CELLS IN A GENERAL WEST NORTHWEST TO EAST SOUTHEAST DIRECTION THIS
PERIOD---SUPPORTING HEAVY TO ISOLATED EXCESSIVE RAINFALL AMOUNTS.
ALONG WITH THE DIFFERENCES IN TIMING AMONG THE MODELS---THERE IS
DIFFERENCES LATITUDE WISE WITH THE MAX QPF AXES.  THE FARTHER
SOUTHWARD OVERALL AXIS OF THE NAM WAS FAVORED -ALTHOUGH AMOUNTS
WERE INCREASED GIVEN TRAINING POTENTIAL.  WHILE THERE IS A LOT OF
DIFFERENCES IN QPF AXES---THERE IS A SIGNAL FOR POTENTIAL OF VERY
HEAVY RAINFALL TOTALS IN THE HI RES GUIDANCE.  IN AREAS OF
TRAINING---ISOLATED TOTALS OF 1-2"+ IN AN HOUR AND TOTALS OF 3-5"+
POSSIBLE.

 

 

also...

 

Rick regarding next week potential...

 

 

TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY...
SPREAD INCREASES ON THE ENSEMBLES AND OPERATIONAL MODELS WITH
RESPECT TO SPEED AT WHICH DEEP UPPER TROUGH AND ASSOCIATED SURFACE
LOW DIG INTO GREAT LAKES REGION. HAVE CONCERN IN THIS PERIOD EVEN
THIS FAR OUT FOR HEAVY RAIN/FLOODING POTENTIAL...AS POSITION OF CWA
BETWEEN DEEP UPSTREAM TROUGH AND STRONG DOWNSTREAM RIDGE IS A
SYNOPTICALLY FAVORABLE SET-UP FOR STRONG LLJ/MOISTURE TRANSPORT.
PWAT VALUES COULD NEAR 2 INCHES. INCREASED FLOW ALOFT WILL ALSO
RESULT IN INCREASED DEEP LAYER SHEAR SUPPORTIVE OF STRONG/SEVERE
STORMS PENDING MESOSCALE COMING TOGETHER
. 12Z ECMWF IS ACTUALLY ON
FASTER END OF SPECTRUM COMPARED TO GFS AND ENSEMBLE MEAN WITH
PROGRESSION OF SYSTEM...SO GENERALLY MAINTAINED CHANCE POPS FROM
BLENDED GUIDANCE DUE TO UNCERTAINTY. TEMPERATURES WEDNESDAY WILL BE
DICTATED BY TIMING...AS UPSTREAM AIR MASS IS MUCH
COOLER...ESPECIALLY ON LATEST ECMWF. THURSDAY TEMPS COULD RANGE FROM
NEAR TO SLIGHTLY BELOW SEASONABLE TO WELL BELOW NORMAL...BUT DID NOT
STRAY AWAY FROM SMART BLEND.

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