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March 29-30th moderate nor'easter


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I guess we were all affected in some way.  I think it will make us stronger, though.

Bro, I like you, but what is this?

 

If this was forecasted, I agree, it wouldn't be that big of a deal.  But people were not prepared for it.  Hell, it caught most of us by surprise.  And on a Monday morning rush hour, no less.

 

And from a wx weenie perspective, just watching this set up was hella-cool.  C'mon... we live for "good" busts like this!

 

And finally, I know a couple of inches of slush isn't as sexy as a 20" HECS... but a couple inches of slush is the reason I have a rod and screws in my leg, and I'm still hopping around on crutches.

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Bro, I like you, but what is this?

 

If this was forecasted, I agree, it wouldn't be that big of a deal.  But people were not prepared for it.  Hell, it caught most of us by surprise.  And on a Monday morning rush hour, no less.

 

And from a wx weenie perspective, just watching this set up was hella-cool.  C'mon... we live for "good" busts like this!

 

And finally, I know a couple of inches of slush isn't as sexy as a 20" HECS... but a couple inches of slush is the reason I have a rod and screws in my leg, and I'm still hopping around on crutches.

Just from a mesoscale perspective, this was a very impressive event indeed. Just that warrants discussion, besides the major impacts on a million plus people during Monday rush hour.

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Bro, I like you, but what is this?

 

If this was forecasted, I agree, it wouldn't be that big of a deal.  But people were not prepared for it.  Hell, it caught most of us by surprise.  And on a Monday morning rush hour, no less.

 

And from a wx weenie perspective, just watching this set up was hella-cool.  C'mon... we live for "good" busts like this!

 

And finally, I know a couple of inches of slush isn't as sexy as a 20" HECS... but a couple inches of slush is the reason I have a rod and screws in my leg, and I'm still hopping around on crutches.

 

Fair enough, surprise snow is a nice bonus!

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Just from a mesoscale perspective, this was a very impressive event indeed. Just that warrants discussion, besides the major impacts on a million plus people during Monday rush hour.

Definitely warrants the discussion.  Some people need to work on the histrionics though.

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The PNS:

 

000
NOUS41 KOKX 311528
PNSOKX
CTZ005>012-NJZ002-004-006-103>108-NYZ067>075-078>081-176>179-010328-

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
1128 AM EDT MON MAR 31 2014

THE FOLLOWING ARE UNOFFICIAL OBSERVATIONS TAKEN DURING THE PAST 8
HOURS FOR THE STORM THAT HAS BEEN AFFECTING OUR REGION. APPRECIATION
IS EXTENDED TO HIGHWAY DEPARTMENTS...COOPERATIVE OBSERVERS...SKYWARN
SPOTTERS AND MEDIA FOR THESE REPORTS. THIS SUMMARY IS ALSO AVAILABLE
ON OUR HOME PAGE AT WEATHER.GOV/NYC

********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************

LOCATION          STORM TOTAL     TIME/DATE   COMMENTS
                     SNOWFALL           OF
                     /INCHES/   MEASUREMENT

CONNECTICUT

...FAIRFIELD COUNTY...
   SHELTON                0.8   936 AM  3/31  TRAINED SPOTTER
   BRIDGEPORT AIRPORT     0.7   956 AM  3/31  COOP OBSERVER
   NEW CANAAN             0.5   839 AM  3/31  TRAINED SPOTTER

...NEW HAVEN COUNTY...
   NORTH HAVEN            3.5  1001 AM  3/31  TRAINED SPOTTER
   MERIDEN                3.0   904 AM  3/31  PUBLIC
   NORTH HAVEN            3.0  1042 AM  3/31  PUBLIC
   HAMDEN                 2.5  1034 AM  3/31  TRAINED SPOTTER
   WOODBRIDGE             2.5  1113 AM  3/31  TRAINED SPOTTER
   EAST HAVEN             2.5   941 AM  3/31  TRAINED SPOTTER
   GUILFORD               1.5  1024 AM  3/31  PUBLIC
   WOLCOTT                0.7  1001 AM  3/31  PUBLIC

NEW YORK

...NASSAU COUNTY...
   ALBERTSON              1.3  1021 AM  3/31  PUBLIC
   LEVITTOWN              1.2   833 AM  3/31  PUBLIC
   PLAINVIEW              1.0   800 AM  3/31  TRAINED SPOTTER
   WANTAGH                0.9   910 AM  3/31  TRAINED SPOTTER

...SUFFOLK COUNTY...
   SELDEN                 5.1  1105 AM  3/31  PUBLIC
   CORAM                  5.0  1117 AM  3/31  PUBLIC
   LAKE GROVE             5.0  1029 AM  3/31  PUBLIC
   ISLIP AIRPORT          4.6  1114 AM  3/31  FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER
   LAKE RONKONKOMA        4.3  1122 AM  3/31  PUBLIC
   CENTEREACH             4.3  1108 AM  3/31  NWS EMPLOYEE
   STONY BROOK            4.2  1003 AM  3/31  TRAINED SPOTTER
   SAYVILLE               4.0  1044 AM  3/31  PUBLIC
   YAPHANK                4.0  1113 AM  3/31  PUBLIC
   RONKONKOMA             4.0  1027 AM  3/31  PUBLIC
   OAKDALE                4.0  1003 AM  3/31  NWS EMPLOYEE
   1 N HAUPPAUGE          3.4  1003 AM  3/31  NWS EMPLOYEE
   SAYVILLE               3.0   900 AM  3/31  NWS EMPLOYEE
   WEST ISLIP             3.0  1027 AM  3/31  PUBLIC
   BAY SHORE              3.0  1121 AM  3/31  PUBLIC
   UPTON                  2.5  1126 AM  3/31  NWS OFFICE
   RIDGE                  2.0  1038 AM  3/31  PUBLIC

$$

LN

 

Note: Most of the snow fell in a 1-2 hour timeframe.

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Definitely warrants the discussion.  Some people need to work on the histrionics though.

 

.. Suffolk County...

   Selden 5.1 1105 am 3/31 public

   Coram 5.0 1117 am 3/31 public

   Lake Grove 5.0 1029 am 3/31 public

   Islip Airport 4.6 1114 am 3/31 FAA contract observer

   Lake Ronkonkoma 4.3 1122 am 3/31 public

   Centereach 4.3 1108 am 3/31 NWS employee

   Stony Brook 4.2 1003 am 3/31 trained spotter

   Sayville 4.0 1044 am 3/31 public

   Yaphank 4.0 1113 am 3/31 public

   Ronkonkoma 4.0 1027 am 3/31 public

   Oakdale 4.0 1003 am 3/31 NWS employee

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last night at 9:45pm when i posted "HRRR gives parts of long island a snowstorm early monday morning," a few guys immediately ripped the model to shreds.

 

HRRR is very hit and miss... but give it its due... it pulls some winners out of its hat.  it didnt nail exact location, but no one was predicting signifcant snow on LI.

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.. Suffolk County...

   Selden 5.1 1105 am 3/31 public

   Coram 5.0 1117 am 3/31 public

   Lake Grove 5.0 1029 am 3/31 public

   Islip Airport 4.6 1114 am 3/31 FAA contract observer

   Lake Ronkonkoma 4.3 1122 am 3/31 public

   Centereach 4.3 1108 am 3/31 NWS employee

   Stony Brook 4.2 1003 am 3/31 trained spotter

   Sayville 4.0 1044 am 3/31 public

   Yaphank 4.0 1113 am 3/31 public

   Ronkonkoma 4.0 1027 am 3/31 public

   Oakdale 4.0 1003 am 3/31 NWS employee

 

Yes, 5" of snow in a matter of couple hours is noteworthy.  It isn't something that should shut the area down, however.

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This was one of the best NAM/HRRR short term snow forecasts of the cold season here. While

the NAM was a bit too far east, the heavier snow signal in the band was there. The RGEM

What too light and too far west.

 

What do we have to do to get to to get midlevel lapse rates this steep during the thunderstorm season? :)

These great lapse rates have been fairy common this cold season.

 

OKX 12z

 

700-500 lapse rate: 7.08 C/km

 

 

 

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Per Hurricane expert on TWC 1992 and 2004 are possible analogs for this upcoming tropical season. Of course both of those years featured major landfalls in Florida. I don't really feel comfortable saying that any season might compare to 2004, that was a once in a lifetime type season.

Until the next year?

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