September 2012 General Discussion
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Brewers
, 27 Aug 2012 07:39 PM
#1
Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:39 PM
Will summer hold strong or fall arrive early?
#2
Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:03 PM
Leaves are already changing colors (and it's only late August).
#3
Posted 28 August 2012 - 06:18 AM
Leaves are already changing colors (and it's only late August).
You can thank the drought for that.
#4
Posted 28 August 2012 - 07:24 AM
You can thank the drought for that.
Or the premature start to summer. I Could be wrong just a thought.
#5
Posted 28 August 2012 - 08:17 AM
Or the premature start to summer. I Could be wrong just a thought.
That definitely could be true. More than likely its the combined effects of the two, although I am no expert myself.
#6
Posted 28 August 2012 - 08:30 AM
Saukville already told me epic warmth for Sept...
I have no idea...i hope it turns cold, but i find it doubtful at this point...
I have no idea...i hope it turns cold, but i find it doubtful at this point...
#7
Posted 28 August 2012 - 08:48 AM
Saukville already told me epic warmth for Sept...
I have no idea...i hope it turns cold, but i find it doubtful at this point...
Stay positive bro. GFSx has been pretty consistent with cooler weather after Labor Day
#8
Posted 28 August 2012 - 11:35 AM
Leaves are already changing colors (and it's only late August).
Its showing the same here. I too contribute the drought to that. Also our red leaf maple that is dark red all season and doesn't change colors is dropping like mad too. Usually the last leaves fall by the end of October, at this rate they will all be down by end of sept.
#9
Posted 28 August 2012 - 01:32 PM
You can thank the drought for that.
Or the premature start to summer. I Could be wrong just a thought.
Probably both.
Then the fact that it turned "cold" so fast after the extreme heat in May/June/July.
#10
Posted 28 August 2012 - 01:35 PM
Its showing the same here. I too contribute the drought to that. Also our red leaf maple that is dark red all season and doesn't change colors is dropping like mad too. Usually the last leaves fall by the end of October, at this rate they will all be down by end of sept.
I'm thinking so too.
I don't recall ever seeing the leaves change this early in the season though (not this far south), many of then are yellowing and a few are red/orange.
#11
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:20 PM
I think September will be close to normal with the trees turning early due to our early spring and drought stresses.
#12
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:23 PM
nothing has started turning here yet
#13
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:25 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought I read somewhere that drought conditions can produce a more vibrant fall color.
#14
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:33 PM
I've got some leaves changing now, pretty typical for up here at this time of year.
#15
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:47 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought I read somewhere that drought conditions can produce a more vibrant fall color.
Well, maybe.......Drought definitely causes an earlier turn. Jury is still out on color vibrancy.
http://www.usna.usda.gov/PhotoGallery/FallFoliage/ScienceFallColor.html
#16
Posted 28 August 2012 - 03:00 PM
Yeah I'm not so sure if the colors would be that great in areas with drought.
#17
Posted 28 August 2012 - 03:56 PM
color change on some trees here...although slight...wonder if the dry conditions aren't part of it.
#18
Posted 28 August 2012 - 04:25 PM
The more I look in to it, it looks like a dry fall is good for fall color. While a dry summer seems to have adverse effects on the color making the leaves fall before they reach their full color potential.
Just noticed MKX has a story on this same topic: http://www.crh.noaa....=86697&source=0
Just noticed MKX has a story on this same topic: http://www.crh.noaa....=86697&source=0
#19
Posted 29 August 2012 - 01:19 AM
Honestly, I have not seen any leaves change colors around my area..
#20
Posted 29 August 2012 - 04:39 AM
Honestly, I have not seen any leaves change colors around my area..
This
#21
Posted 29 August 2012 - 02:13 PM
Honestly, I have not seen any leaves change colors around my area..
Seriously? You guys must not be looking closely. I have seen the horsechestnuts start to brown, the honeylocusts start to turn gold, and some maples start to turn red/orange, which is definitely ahead of schedule. I suspect early greenup and mid-summer drought has something to do with it.This
#22
Posted 29 August 2012 - 02:55 PM
I am not sure if the leaves are changing or "rusty" from the drought. Hard to tell.
#23
Posted 29 August 2012 - 03:00 PM
Seriously? You guys must not be looking closely. I have seen the horsechestnuts start to brown, the honeylocusts start to turn gold, and some maples start to turn red/orange, which is definitely ahead of schedule. I suspect early greenup and mid-summer drought has something to do with it.
I have noticed it too on the Eastside, the trees along the freeways, some are turning yellow already.
#24
Posted 29 August 2012 - 03:09 PM
Well I've noticed a couple hardwoods turning a shade of greenish yellow. Although I have not seen one maple pop a color. I'm headed hiking maybe tomorrow...I'll be a looking for colors.
Is it even early? I've seen colors pop in late August early September before.
Is it even early? I've seen colors pop in late August early September before.
#25
Posted 29 August 2012 - 03:43 PM
I can confirm Ive noticed numerous trees turning
#26
Posted 29 August 2012 - 03:58 PM
refreshing...
#27
Posted 29 August 2012 - 10:26 PM
EC showing below normal temperatures in this region for the 8-14 day outlook
#28
Posted 29 August 2012 - 11:41 PM
looks like a very strong signal for much cooler weather...nice.
#29
Posted 29 August 2012 - 11:49 PM
At first glance behind Isaac, we could have some decent severe weather to look forward to Monday and Tuesday.
A pretty decent shortwave and ULJ to work with, maybe a good setup for a organized bow echo or two.
A pretty decent shortwave and ULJ to work with, maybe a good setup for a organized bow echo or two.
#30
Posted 30 August 2012 - 02:09 AM
Seriously? You guys must not be looking closely. I have seen the horsechestnuts start to brown, the honeylocusts start to turn gold, and some maples start to turn red/orange, which is definitely ahead of schedule. I suspect early greenup and mid-summer drought has something to do with it.
Maybe...Remember tho the east side (Macomb, Oakland) had plenty of rainfall. Drought was not a big issue at all.
#31
Posted 30 August 2012 - 02:53 PM
They are already getting snowblower orders in at the hardware store I work at, so it is almost that time of year.
#32
Posted 30 August 2012 - 03:07 PM
LOL. Won't need those this year.They are already getting snowblower orders in at the hardware store I work at, so it is almost that time of year.
#33
Posted 30 August 2012 - 03:33 PM
LOL. Won't need those this year.
Seriously? Do you really have to go there
#34
Posted 30 August 2012 - 03:49 PM
Not sure how it will affect us down here, but AK looks to get pounded by some serious looking storms:

What we need is for these lows to drop snow and more snow...and then more snow across AK/CANADA...build a nice fat snowpack...
Fairbanks is losing nearly 7 minutes of daylight per day...
Snowblowers? This year even a snowblower won't be enough... I have a feeling that areas along the L Mich will need to be dug out by the Marines because of insanely heavy (20+ inch snows every 3 days) due to 75F lake waters and -30F air temps

What we need is for these lows to drop snow and more snow...and then more snow across AK/CANADA...build a nice fat snowpack...
Fairbanks is losing nearly 7 minutes of daylight per day...
Snowblowers? This year even a snowblower won't be enough... I have a feeling that areas along the L Mich will need to be dug out by the Marines because of insanely heavy (20+ inch snows every 3 days) due to 75F lake waters and -30F air temps
#35
Posted 30 August 2012 - 04:20 PM
Went hiking at Ortonvile State Park earlier. Not much color or any at all. Has allot to do with tree species. There are varius stands of oaks, hemlocks and white pine that tower over the area.
Back in the city..Some of the non native Norwegian maples or aka city shade trees seem to be yellowing along with a few native sweet maples.
Back in the city..Some of the non native Norwegian maples or aka city shade trees seem to be yellowing along with a few native sweet maples.
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