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Is KTTN running a bit too warm?


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phlwx

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It's the warmest spot in New Jersey among the main climate sites at 5 AM (warmer than even EWR) and month-to-date is averaging higher than PHL (55.4 at TTN, 55.3 at PHL), with the average high running 0.5 higher...

In March, TTN averaged 52.5, higher than PHL (52.2).

In February, TTN 41.1, PHL 40.9.

Any idea what's up?

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Parsley

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It's the warmest spot in New Jersey among the main climate sites at 5 AM (warmer than even EWR) and month-to-date is averaging higher than PHL (55.4 at TTN, 55.3 at PHL), with the average high running 0.5 higher...

In March, TTN averaged 52.5, higher than PHL (52.2).

In February, TTN 41.1, PHL 40.9.

Any idea what's up?


Yeah, I've noticed that too, but I've also noticed Ray's parents temps. from Ray's posts have been higher than most other places too (I think he was over 90 yesterday for example).

I'm sure he'll add his 2 cents on it all.

Reminds me of PTW airport a year or two ago......pretty sure there was a warm bias there that was corrected.

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dryslotted

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Can't speak for TTN, but VAY hit 91 yesterday, which coincided with several local PWS readings. That only addresses yesterday, of course...

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It is known that KTTN seems to have trended warmer, however I am told that our techs have gone to the site at least a few times with other instrumentation and those read very similar to KTTN. Our techs do calibration checks on the ASOS's and I was told the readings at this site are within error tolerance. We have been noticing some nearby mesonet sites have also been warmer, similiar to the KTTN obs. We are not certain for sure, but it looks like some sort of microclimate or perhaps local geography/affects may be playing a role here. I have not paid close attention, but yesterday for example this occurred in northern Burlington county where several stations were 90-92 degrees. We topped out at 92 degrees here at the NWS office yesterday.

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It is known that KTTN seems to have trended warmer, however I am told that our techs have gone to the site at least a few times with other instrumentation and those read very similar to KTTN. Our techs do calibration checks on the ASOS's and I was told the readings at this site are within error tolerance. We have been noticing some nearby mesonet sites have also been warmer, similiar to the KTTN obs. We are not certain for sure, but it looks like some sort of microclimate or perhaps local geography/affects may be playing a role here. I have not paid close attention, but yesterday for example this occurred in northern Burlington county where several stations were 90-92 degrees. We topped out at 92 degrees here at the NWS office yesterday.



The thermometer is running warmer because it is really trying to coax Ray home by saying- "Ray please come home- our desert climate is better for you"

By the way Mike- have you ran all of the gas out of your snow blower yet or did you ever fill it up?

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MGorse

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The thermometer is running warmer because it is really trying to coax Ray home by saying- "Ray please come home- our desert climate is better for you"


:lol:

By the way Mike- have you ran all of the gas out of your snow blower yet or did you ever fill it up?


I started it up a few times. I left some gas in it, but added fuel stabilizer to store it. There was actually more dust accumulation on it than snow. :(

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famartin

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http://weather.glads...y.net/site/KTTN

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irishbri74

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Maybe there's a volcano under Trenton...



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MGorse

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http://weather.glads...y.net/site/KTTN


Is this more of an FYI, or something else?

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famartin

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Is this more of an FYI, or something else?


The former.

#11
MGorse

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The former.


Okay. I have not seen that site before.

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forkyfork

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that temp section raises eyebrows

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famartin

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Okay. I have not seen that site before.


Yeah, its pretty neat. You can get site info and statistics on just about every site in MADIS.

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famartin

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Yeah, its pretty neat. You can get site info and statistics on just about every site in MADIS.


Errr, just noticed the NJDOT sites aren't in there... at least not yet.

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phlwx

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It is known that KTTN seems to have trended warmer, however I am told that our techs have gone to the site at least a few times with other instrumentation and those read very similar to KTTN. Our techs do calibration checks on the ASOS's and I was told the readings at this site are within error tolerance. We have been noticing some nearby mesonet sites have also been warmer, similiar to the KTTN obs. We are not certain for sure, but it looks like some sort of microclimate or perhaps local geography/affects may be playing a role here. I have not paid close attention, but yesterday for example this occurred in northern Burlington county where several stations were 90-92 degrees. We topped out at 92 degrees here at the NWS office yesterday.


curious -- what is error tolerance? 1, 2 degrees?

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MGorse

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curious -- what is error tolerance? 1, 2 degrees?


I was told that the temperature error is plus or minus 5 degrees when compared to the sling psychrometer reading. I talked to our techs this afternoon and they may be able to check the sensor tomorrow.

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Rainshadow

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By the way, the temperature sensor at Trenton has been replaced. Maybe we should go golf at Mountaintop again and see what's changed up there.

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famartin

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By the way, the temperature sensor at Trenton has been replaced. Maybe we should go golf at Mountaintop again and see what's changed up there.


I noticed the change immediately yesterday. :thumbsup:

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famartin

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http://weather.glads...y.net/site/KTTN


that temp section raises eyebrows


Its green now :thumbsup:

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Thunder Road

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tl;dr

I've been looking for a picture of the "A LITTLE HOT" button from Airplane! but I can't find one to post in this thread. :(




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