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Does anyone have any thoughts on what the weather is looking like for Monday's race? The start time is in waves but for most the period for the race is 10 am to 2pm. Some folks are getting nervous by temps near 80 being thrown around.
http://www.letsrun.c...?thread=4525482

At the moment the point and click is for Sunny and a high of 71.
http://forecast.weat...d2=-71.0603&e=0

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Does anyone have any thoughts on what the weather is looking like for Monday's race? The start time is in waves but for most the period for the race is 10 am to 2pm. Some folks are getting nervous by temps near 80 being thrown around.
http://www.letsrun.c...?thread=4525482

At the moment the point and click is for Sunny and a high of 71.
http://forecast.weat...d2=-71.0603&e=0



I think it's possible, but timing of the front is critical. For now, at least 70s seems like a good bet, but if the front is slow to come through...could be lower 80s.

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It looks to me like it's around 80 by noon time..And probably fairly muggy. Fronts typically move slower than progged and it's warmest just ahead of the front.

Hopefully in a year or 2 I'll be able to qualify to run in it

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Hopefully in a year or 2 I'll be able to qualify to run in it


nice kev ...that would be impressive

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It looks to me like it's around 80 by noon time..And probably fairly muggy. Fronts typically move slower than progged and it's warmest just ahead of the front.

Hopefully in a year or 2 I'll be able to qualify to run in it


You're crazy. Congrats on having no knees by age 50.

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You're crazy. Congrats on having no knees by age 50.

Dude that is a myth. There are numerous studies out there that show distance running is not harmful to knees. You need to read up on that before making those types of comments. It's the weightlifters that need to worry. They have no fitness level and no cardio. They bulk up and then as they age all the muscle turns to fat and you end up sloppy and fat with no level of fitness

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Dude that is a myth. There are numerous studies out there that show distance running is not harmful to knees. You need to read up on that before making those types of comments. It's the weightlifters that need to worry. They have no fitness level and no cardio. They bulk up and then as they age all the muscle turns to fat and you end up sloppy and fat with no level of fitness


My manager is an avid runner for years and it's catching up to him. You watch. 5-6 miles is one thing. 10+ miles each day is not good.

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My manager is an avid runner for years and it's catching up to him. You watch. 5-6 miles is one thing. 10+ miles each day is not good.

You can't base it on 1 50 yr old guy who had a bad knee. It's actually very good for the joints. And who runs 10 miles everyday? I run 4 days a week.

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You can't base it on 1 50 yr old guy who had a bad knee. It's actually very good for the joints. And who runs 10 miles everyday? I run 4 days a week.


Right, but you train quite a bit when you do. Hey more power to you if it never bothers you. All I'm saying is to watch your knees.

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My manager is an avid runner for years and it's catching up to him. You watch. 5-6 miles is one thing. 10+ miles each day is not good.


I started running 5 years ago and had more knee problems training for my first half marathon then I do running my 50 mile/100k races.

Most runners injury themselves through improper training techniques and poor core strength. In the past year I've logged close to 2,900 miles and my legs/joints have never felt better.

Moments before I saw this thread I saw the forecast and thought, thank god I am not running Boston this year. 80+ is just misery for a runner!

I was overheating in the Ice Marathon this year in Antartica and its was 5 degrees.

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Looks like Monday not so warm now. GFS FTW?

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I started running 5 years ago and had more knee problems training for my first half marathon then I do running my 50 mile/100k races.

Most runners injury themselves through improper training techniques and poor core strength. In the past year I've logged close to 2,900 miles and my legs/joints have never felt better.

Moments before I saw this thread I saw the forecast and thought, thank god I am not running Boston this year. 80+ is just misery for a runner!

I was overheating in the Ice Marathon this year in Antartica and its was 5 degrees.

Wow, nice man. Antartica! Cool, I mean that's great LOL

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Kevin, why wait to qualify? Just run it now and see how you do.

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Right, but you train quite a bit when you do. Hey more power to you if it never bothers you. All I'm saying is to watch your knees.

Au contraire mon fraire (read with your best Bart Simpson voice)

2008 study of marathon runners found long term running may actually be protective of knees.
http://well.blogs.ny...elp-your-knees/

An article in Skeletal Radiology, a well-respected journal, created something of a sensation in Europe last year. It reported that researchers from Danube Hospital in Austria examined the knees of marathon runners using M.R.I. imaging, before and after the 1997 Vienna marathon. Ten years later, they scanned the same runners’ knees again. The results were striking. “No major new internal damage in the knee joints of marathon runners was found after a 10-year interval,” the researchers reported.


An important 2008 study, this one from Stanford University, followed middle-aged, longtime distance runners (not necessarily marathoners) for nearly 20 years, beginning in 1984, when most were in their 50s or 60s. At that time, 6.7 percent of the runners had creaky, mildly arthritic knees, while none of an age-matched control group did. After 20 years, however, the runners’ knees were healthier; only 20 percent showed arthritic changes, versus 32 percent of the control group’s knees. Barely 2 percent of the runners’ knees were severely arthritic, while almost 10 percent of the control group’s were.



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Au contraire mon fraire (read with your best Bart Simpson voice)

2008 study of marathon runners found long term running may actually be protective of knees.
http://well.blogs.ny...elp-your-knees/

That was one of the studies I have read.

Thanks and AWT

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That was one of the studies I have read.

Thanks and AWT


Well let me know when your knees are sawdust.

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Well let me know when your knees are sawdust.

As soon as you let me know when your muscles from lifting turn into flab as you age

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As soon as you let me know when your muscles from lifting turn into flab as you age


I've been running. Trying to balance it out.

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I've been running. Trying to balance it out.

Flabby knees?

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Flabby knees?


I keep getting these tension pains on my lower left leg. I don't know what it is. Not necessarily splints.

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Flabby knees?

Why are you waiting to qualify?

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Man what a difference in models for Monday. Could be 84 or 60.

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As soon as you let me know when your muscles from lifting turn into flab as you age


Do you ever feel like its hard to do things around the house after burning off all your muscle from running? Last time I cut I felt like I couldn't do anything lol. Now I can carry in all the groceries at once in one hand and stuff like that even if I put on some fat. Just honestly wondering.

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Do you ever feel like its hard to do things around the house after burning off all your muscle from running? Last time I cut I felt like I couldn't do anything lol. Now I can carry in all the groceries at once in one hand and stuff like that even if I put on some fat. Just honestly wondering.


His wife mows the lawn now since he does not have the strength to do it. The only way he can mow is to get a head start by jogging and then grab the mower while in stride.

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His wife mows the lawn now since he does not have the strength to do it. The only way he can mow is to get a head start by jogging and then grab the mower while in stride.


Kids picking up the bags of Lesco for him

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Why are you waiting to qualify?

What?

I have to a 3:15 or better for my age group and currently I cannot do that. I'm working twds that but may never get there

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What?

I have to a 3:15 or better for my age group and currently I cannot do that. I'm working twds that but may never get there


You can always run it and just time yourself. Who cares if you don't qualify.

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Do you ever feel like its hard to do things around the house after burning off all your muscle from running? Last time I cut I felt like I couldn't do anything lol. Now I can carry in all the groceries at once in one hand and stuff like that even if I put on some fat. Just honestly wondering.

Not at all. You don't burn all your muscles from running. That's another myth. Running just makes the muscles lean . You burn the glycogen/sugar in your body.

It's the meatheads with the huge arms that lose their mass if they start doing alot of running..and that's why people think you lose your muscle

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You can always run it and just time yourself. Who cares if you don't qualify.

From what I've heard you cannot just run the Boston with no number.. They don't allow that..and yank anyone with no number off the course.

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From what I've heard you cannot just run the Boston with no number.. They don't allow that..and yank anyone with no number off the course.


My sister did about 3 years ago. I'll ask her to see what she did. I mean it's like 15,000 people running so how can they yank you?

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Dude that is a myth. There are numerous studies out there that show distance running is not harmful to knees. You need to read up on that before making those types of comments. It's the weightlifters that need to worry. They have no fitness level and no cardio. They bulk up and then as they age all the muscle turns to fat and you end up sloppy and fat with no level of fitness


I have only posted on this forum a handful of times but I am an active reader. Your post and the information you are attempting to spread is about as far from the truth as you can get. Just as you can't magically turn fat into muscle - you cannot turn your muscle into fat. You're grossly misinformed. A muscular person who stops lifting weights will slowly lose muscle over time. It does not turn into fat. You would most likely put on a higher percentage of fat if you continue eating at a grueling pace without working out. The entire process is really very simple. If someone stops lifting weights and also stops eating at the caloric intake that they were while lifting, they will lose weight. With this weight loss will come both a loss of fat and muscle. Without lifting weights, said person will succumb to the effects of aging much quicker. Your body begins to lose muscle mass. Sarcopenia begins as early as 20-25 in males but increases much quicker after the age of 60. As this happens, your muscles are used less frequently and you begin to lose muscle. This can all be combated and slowed through the process of weight lifting. However, as soon as an aging individual stops lifting they will begin to lose muscle mass due to the decrease in the use of muscle.

This is true for all people - weightlifting or long distance running. To say a weightlifter will become fat when they stop working out is moronic. Its no more true than stating a runner will become fat after he stops running. It is all a factor of aging and, at the very least, individuals who lift heavier weights throughout their life will have a higher percentage of muscle mass compared to anyone (ie: runners).

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I ran for decades, knees had minor problems that resolved with proper training. Ultimately what stopped me in my early 60s were my feet and back which started bothering me. Still, most my age have far more aches and pains.

Good luck Kevin. Boston was always a goal for me but it never happened.

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From what I've heard you cannot just run the Boston with no number.. They don't allow that..and yank anyone with no number off the course.


I ran boston in 2005 without a number. I snuck into one of the starting blocks with a friend of mine who had qualified and no one looked or said anything to me at all. It's just way too many people and too much chaos going on for them to pick people out. They may have changed how heavily they police things in recent years but they would literally have to plow through a ton of people to pull you out of the race and I don't see that being possible unless they want to injure a bunch of other runners.

On the other hand though you could run with one of the fund raising teams and get a number that way by raising money instead of getting a qualifying time.

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Ouch, it could be ugly




MONDAY AND TUESDAY...THERE IS STILL SOME UNCERTAINTY HERE THOUGH THE MODELS HAVE COME INTO MORE OF AN AGREEMENT ON THIS TIMEFRAME. AS STATED ABOVE...BOTH MODELS BRING THE COLD FRONT ONLY AS FAR SOUTH AS NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND. THIS KEEPS SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND ON THE WARM SIDE OF THE FRONT WITH THE WARMING TREND SEEN OVER THE WEEKEND CONTINUING. THE LATEST ECMWF RUN INDICATES TEMPERATURES COULD BE WELL INTO THE UPPER 80S MONDAY...WHICH WOULD SET RECORDS AT BOSTON /84 IN 2003/ AND WORCESTER /84 IN 2002/. IT WOULD NEAR OR PERHAPS TIE RECORDS IN PROVIDENCE /88 IN 2003/ AND HARTFORD /90 IN 2002/. TUESDAYS TEMPERATURES SHOULD BE VERY CLOSE TO MONDAYS...THOUGH THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY FOR A FEW SHOWERS TUESDAY. WILL BE KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON THIS FORECAST THROUGH THE WEEKEND.



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I remember the Marathon in 1976. Temps approaching 100 before the sea breeze knocked it down to 50 seemingly instantaneously. My friend ran it and looked to be near death coming up heartbreak hill. He's 75 now and hasn't run since that race.

That summer was cool and the winter that followed was brutally cold. Nature finds a way to equillobrate..





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