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[SACRUS]

Figured i'd add the discussion in a new thread as to not take away from the march torch discussion thread.

Will this year feature the third consecutive hot summer/ above avg temps, 90 + temps etc?


Most of the years and seasons I am looking at come in pairs i dont see 3 back to back to back hot summers (not just above normal, but mulitple heat waves and much above avg).


Unc, don others - do you have any records of 3 summers in a row with high heat for the big apple. Closest or only trifecta I find is 93, 94, 95.

[Snowlover76]

I hope to God that this summer is not a scorcher like the last two were, 2009 would make me happy.

[uncle W]

The last two Summers were to hot...This year could be a third...I hope not...we need 20 90+days to break the record of 19 for three straight years from 93-95...
Here is a list of past summers 90 and 100 plus days and hottest temperature...
year...90+...100+....max
1930...17......1......102
1931...21......0.......99
1932...15......0.......96
1933...21......2......102
1934...15......1......101
1935...10......0.......95
1936...26......2......106
1937...22......2......100
1938...15......0.......96
1939...24......0.......96

1940...17......0.......98
1941...29......0.......98
1942...12......0.......97
1943...27......0.......99
1944...37......3......102
1945...18......0.......97
1946.....9......0.......94
1947.....9......0.......95
1948...13......3......103
1949...29......2......102

1950.....6......0.......95
1951.....7......0.......94
1952...24......1......100
1953...32......4......102
1954...17......2......100
1955...25......3......100
1956...11......0.......99
1957...21......2......101
1958.....6......0.......93
1959...27......0.......97

1960.....5......0.......91
1961...29......0.......97
1962...18......0.......99
1963...16......0.......98
1964...23......0.......99
1965...15......0.......95
1966...35......4......103
1967.....9......0.......96
1968...17......0.......98
1969...16......0.......97

1970...22......0.......94
1971...18......0.......96
1972...15......0.......94
1973...18......0.......98
1974...17......0.......95
1975.....8......0.......98
1976...15......0.......96
1977...23......3......104
1978...11......0.......95
1979...18......0.......95

1980...32......2......102
1981...16......0.......96
1982...11......0.......98
1983...36......0.......99
1984...10......0.......96
1985.....9......0.......95
1986...11......0.......98
1987...22......0.......97
1988...32......0.......99
1989...16......0.......96

1990...13......0.......95
1991...39......2......102
1992.....9......0.......93
1993...39......3......102
1994...19......0.......98
1995...29......1......102
1996.....3......0.......96
1997...12......0.......97
1998.....8......0.......93
1999...27......2......101

2000.....7......0.......93
2001...15......1......103
2002...32......0.......98
2003.....8......0.......94
2004.....2......0.......91
2005...23......0.......99
2006.....8......0.......97
2007...10......0.......92
2008...12......0.......96
2009.....7......0.......92

2010...37......2......103
2011...20......2......104

[Snowlover76]

The 40's and 50's were hot, lots of 100+ degree days

[SACRUS]

Looks like 52,53,54,55 was a nice hot stretch as well. Does the 17 90+ days in 54 also incude the 100 +?

[uncle W]

Looks like 52,53,54,55 was a nice hot stretch as well. Does the 17 90+ days in 54 also incude the 100 +?

yes...

[bkviking]

I can only pray against a 2009 repeat; absolutely depressing Spring and Summer, save 2 week period in July where there was dry, Northwest wind blowing in an otherwise wet, humid, cloudy summer.

I hope to God that this summer is not a scorcher like the last two were, 2009 would make me happy.

[Snowlover76]

I can only pray against a 2009 repeat; absolutely depressing Spring and Summer, save 2 week period in July where there was dry, Northwest wind blowing in an otherwise wet, humid, cloudy summer.

I loved that summer, and I will welcome it as a change of pace from this month after month of well above normal temperatures.

[doncat]

My five warmest summers during past 35 years are: 76.9 in 2010, 75.9 in 2005, 75.9 in 1999, 75.6 in 1988, 75.4 in 1993... so at least in the top five no two were back to back.

[Snowlover76]

My five warmest summers during past 35 years are: 76.9 in 2010, 75.9 in 2005, 75.9 in 1999, 75.6 in 1988, 75.4 in 1993... so at least in the top five no two were back to back.

Lets keep it that way.
LOL

[bkviking]

IF we keep going at this pace, perhaps a change would be welcome. 2010 was hot but humidity never became an issue. Last year was ratty hot, with 3rd week of July an inferno, but hard to convince me the summer season should be rainy. What's going on this "winter" is just beguiling, though, and 60s and 70s in abundance in March is just nuts, and I'd think it's gotta balance it out sooner or later.

I loved that summer, and I will welcome it as a change of pace from this month after month of well above normal temperatures.

[Snowlover76]

IF we keep going at this pace, perhaps a change would be welcome. 2010 was hot but humidity never became an issue. Last year was ratty hot, with 3rd week of July an inferno, but hard to convince me the summer season should be rainy. What's going on this "winter" is just beguiling, though, and 60s and 70s in abundance in March is just nuts, and I'd think it's gotta balance it out sooner or later.

I missed the heat of last July because I was in Ireland enjoying the upper 50's and lower 60's during their coolest summer on record.

[bkviking]

Ok, THAT I'd take...IN Ireland. Had to be perfect. Can't exactly picture the quaint villages, green fields and cobblestone roads WITHOUT cool and rainy conditions.

I missed the heat of last July because I was in Ireland enjoying the upper 50's and lower 60's during their coolest summer on record.

[Snowlover76]

Ok, THAT I'd take...IN Ireland. Had to be perfect. Can't exactly picture the quaint villages, green fields and cobblestone roads WITHOUT cool and rainy conditions.

It was great, hearing from back home(in LI) where it was 100 degrees while I was sitting pretty in cool weather made me feel great.LOL

It is a beautiful country. This was my 5th time there, and I will be heading back in July for my cousins wedding.

[Isotherm]

It was great, hearing from back home(in LI) where it was 100 degrees while I was sitting pretty in cool weather made me feel great.LOL

It is a beautiful country. This was my 5th time there, and I will be heading back in July for my cousins wedding.

I'd love to visit there but I wouldn't want to live there. Weather's very boring, pretty much stays within the 40-60 degree range year-round.

I like cool wx during the spring, but summer 2009 would be about the worst outcome in my eyes. Absolutely freezing getting out of the ocean and pool wih few hot days. Those that are way inland and don't have access to beach/pool/ocean probably prefer the cooler summers moreso.

[Snowlover76]

I'd love to visit there but I wouldn't want to live there. Weather's very boring, pretty much stays within the 40-60 degree range year-round.

I like cool wx during the spring, but summer 2009 would be about the worst outcome in my eyes. Absolutely freezing getting out of the ocean and pool wih few hot days. Those that are way inland and don't have access to beach/pool/ocean probably prefer the cooler summers moreso.

i have no A/C in my house, so I will take whatever I can get.

[doncat]

i have no A/C in my house, so I will take whatever I can get.

No AC? I dont mind the heat at all in the summer as long as I can get to the AC when I'm done outside.

[Snowlover76]

No AC? I dont mind the heat at all in the summer as long as I can get to the AC when I'm done outside.

I used to have it in my bedroom, but I installed it wrong in the window and it would up falling out, this was a few years ago (2008 i think), but the last two summers were HELL, 2009 was great though.

[Isotherm]

I used to have it in my bedroom, but I installed it wrong in the window and it would up falling out, this was a few years ago (2008 i think), but the last two summers were HELL, 2009 was great though.

Window units for as cheap as a 100 bucks. If you're willing to suffer through 3 months of heat, humidity and sweating all night long to save 100 bucks, you've got to be more cheap than Mr. Krabs.

https://www.google.c...iw=1366&bih=620

[Snowlover76]

Window units for as cheap as a 100 bucks. If you're willing to suffer through 3 months of heat, humidity and sweating all night long to save 100 bucks, you've got to be more cheap than Mr. Krabs.

https://www.google.c...iw=1366&bih=620

When you are spending most of your paycheck on gas, they are not all that cheap, and I am also saving up far a car that gets more than 12-14MPG

[Sundog]

That 37 from 2010 still makes me annoyed. That should have been more like 45+.

[Snowlover76]

That 37 from 2010 still makes me annoyed. That should have been more like 45+.

I HATED summer 2010!!!!!

[pazzo83]

I HATED summer 2010!!!!!

Summer 2010 had some rough nights, as I didn't have A/C either and I lived in a two-story apt. Some nights we were in the low 90s at like 2 or 3 in the morning.

[Sundog]

Summer 2010 had some rough nights, as I didn't have A/C either and I lived in a two-story apt. Some nights we were in the low 90s at like 2 or 3 in the morning.

I can't think of a worse environment to be in. That is a significant quality of life violation for me.

[Snowlover76]

I can't think of a worse environment to be in. That is a significant quality of life violation for me.

On July 4th, 2010 the thermometer in my room read over 102 degrees

[pazzo83]

I can't think of a worse environment to be in. That is a significant quality of life violation for me.

It pushed me to the edge and I can deal with heat very well. Lesson learned: never live in an apt with non-standard windows unless it has HVAC already installed.

[Sundog]

It pushed me to the edge and I can deal with heat very well. Lesson learned: never live in an apt with non-standard windows unless it has HVAC already installed.

Seriously. I mean I can't stand it when my house starts to approach 80 inside. I need it to be below like 76 so I can be comfortable. Even lower if it's humid. Your tolerance is impressive.

[Snowlover76]

Seriously. I mean I can't stand it when my house starts to approach 80 inside. I need it to be below like 76 so I can be comfortable. Even lower if it's humid. Your tolerance is impressive.

You would die if you were in my house in July or August.

[pazzo83]

Seriously. I mean I can't stand it when my house starts to approach 80 inside. I need it to be below like 76 so I can be comfortable. Even lower if it's humid. Your tolerance is impressive.

I'm good till about 80 then it starts to become uncomfortable. Above 90 in my room I really can't sleep. I had like three fans blowing on me that summer but it was a pretty futile effort. If this torch continues into JJA there is no doubt I'm getting A/C (I have normal windows where I live now).

[Cfa]

Summer 2010 had some rough nights, as I didn't have A/C either and I lived in a two-story apt. Some nights we were in the low 90s at like 2 or 3 in the morning.

I can relate to that, we had about a 4 day stretch of nights that stayed between 89-93. I have a high heat tolerance but it felt disgusting.

I guess it's odd that I want another hot summer.

[uncle W]

the last two summers had two of the hottest 30 day period on record...
Hottest 30 day periods...
82.5 in 1980
81.9 in 1876
81.9 in 1999
81.8 in 2005
81.8 in 2010
81.6 in 1955
81.2 in 1993
81.1 in 1995
81.1 in 1988
81.0 in 1966
81.0 in 2011
80.9 in 1983

[Isotherm]

That 37 from 2010 still makes me annoyed. That should have been more like 45+.

Yeah the number was representative of that 0.0001% of NYC that is most lush. I recorded 38 90F+ days in Monmouth County, but I'm in a fairly rural area. Recorded like 12-14 88-89F highs, so in terms of "feeling", I consider summer 2010 to have about 50-52 90 degree days.

[SACRUS]

90 (+) days 2011/2010

2011

PHL: 33 (April: 0; May: 3; June: 5 ; Jul: 21 ; Aug: 4 ; Sep: )
EWR: 31 (April: 0; May: 1; June: 4; Jul: 22; Aug: 4; Sep: )
TTN: 26 (April: 0; May: 2; June: 3; Jul: 17 ; Aug: 4; Sep: )
LGA: 18 (April: 0; May:0 ; June: 3 ; Jul: 13; Aug: 2 ; Sep: )
ACY: 32 (April: 0; May: 1; June: 6 ; Jul: 21 ; Aug: 4; Sep: )
TEB: 28 (April: 0; May: 2; June: 4 ; Jul: 18 ; Aug: 4; Sep: )
NYC: 20 (April: 0; May: 0 ; June: 3 ; Jul: 14; Aug: 3; Sep: )
JFK: 13 (April: 0; May: 0 ; June: 1 ; Jul: 10; Aug: 2 ; Sep: )

2010

PHL: 55 (April: 0; May: 2; June: 15; Jul: 19; Aug: 12; Sep: 7)
EWR: 54 (April: 1; May: 2; June: 13; Jul: 21; Aug: 11; Sep: 6)
TTN: 52 (April: 0; May: 3; June: 10; Jul: 21; Aug: 13; Sep: 5)
LGA: 48 (April: 1; May: 2; June: 12; Jul: 18; Aug: 11; Sep: 4)
ACY: 46 (April: 1; May: 1; June: 14; Jul: 14; Aug: 11; Sep: 5)
TEB: 41 (April: 1; May: 2; June: 10; Jul: 16; Aug: 8; Sep: 4)
NYC: 37 (April: 1; May: 1; June: 4; Jul: 16; Aug: 12; Sep: 3)
JFK: 31 (April: 0; May: 1; June: 8; Jul: 12; Aug: 7; Sep: 2)

[uncle W]

these are the lowest warmest 30 day periods...2000 is tied with 1888 for the lowest on record...
since 1930...
72.7 in 2000
74.4 in 1992
74.8 in 2004
74.9 in 1996
75.0 in 1960
75.0 in 1950
75.1 in 1956
75.5 in 1945
75.6 in 1962
75.7 in 1965

[SACRUS]

The last two Summers were to hot...This year could be a third...I hope not...we need 20 90+days to break the record of 19 for three straight years from 93-95...
Here is a list of past summers 90 and 100 plus days and hottest temperature...
year...90+...100+....max
1930...17......1......102
1931...21......0.......99
1932...15......0.......96
1933...21......2......102
1934...15......1......101
1935...10......0.......95
1936...26......2......106
1937...22......2......100
1938...15......0.......96
1939...24......0.......96

1940...17......0.......98
1941...29......0.......98
1942...12......0.......97
1943...27......0.......99
1944...37......3......102
1945...18......0.......97
1946.....9......0.......94
1947.....9......0.......95
1948...13......3......103
1949...29......2......102

1950.....6......0.......95
1951.....7......0.......94
1952...24......1......100
1953...32......4......102
1954...17......2......100
1955...25......3......100
1956...11......0.......99
1957...21......2......101
1958.....6......0.......93
1959...27......0.......97

1960.....5......0.......91
1961...29......0.......97
1962...18......0.......99
1963...16......0.......98
1964...23......0.......99
1965...15......0.......95
1966...35......4......103
1967.....9......0.......96
1968...17......0.......98
1969...16......0.......97

1970...22......0.......94
1971...18......0.......96
1972...15......0.......94
1973...18......0.......98
1974...17......0.......95
1975.....8......0.......98
1976...15......0.......96
1977...23......3......104
1978...11......0.......95
1979...18......0.......95

1980...32......2......102
1981...16......0.......96
1982...11......0.......98
1983...36......0.......99
1984...10......0.......96
1985.....9......0.......95
1986...11......0.......98
1987...22......0.......97
1988...32......0.......99
1989...16......0.......96

1990...13......0.......95
1991...39......2......102
1992.....9......0.......93
1993...39......3......102
1994...19......0.......98
1995...29......1......102
1996.....3......0.......96
1997...12......0.......97
1998.....8......0.......93
1999...27......2......101

2000.....7......0.......93
2001...15......1......103
2002...32......0.......98
2003.....8......0.......94
2004.....2......0.......91
2005...23......0.......99
2006.....8......0.......97
2007...10......0.......92
2008...12......0.......96
2009.....7......0.......92

2010...37......2......103
2011...20......2......104

A bit of a mix with the analog (MEI) years

2008 (avg)
1999 (hot)
1951 (cool)
2000 (cool)
1963 (avg)
1968 (avg/above)
2001 (cool/hot in Aug)
1955 (hot)
1975 (avg/above)