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Thick fog now. If the ground was white I could pretend it was +SN.

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OT but it's worth sharing...i know the mount ranier totals are often wild but this is one of the more ridiculous 24 hour totals i've ever seen

Wednesday: Snow. The snow could be heavy at times. High near 23. Windy, with a southwest wind around 30 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 34 to 40 inches possible.

Wednesday Night: Snow. The snow could be heavy at times. Low around 21. Windy, with a west southwest wind between 30 and 33 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 31 to 37 inches possible.

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Snow actually moving in here. From 50 to 33 in about 1 hr times.

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Thick fog now. If the ground was white I could pretend it was +SN.


No kidding. It's like a pea soup fog out there. By the way, a little off topic, but what do you think of the snow chances for Saturday? Some models are hinting we might get something. My apologies if this is mentioned in another thread and I just didn't see it.

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21 °F and falling. All the snow melted today by salt will refreeze into an ice sheet as temperatures approach 0 °F tonight.

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Front blasted through here in a fairly impressive fashion. Left my house it was 230pm and 55 according to the car. By the time I got to work at 330pm it was 37 has dropped since. Also nice frontal rain band mixed in on the drive in.

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Front blasted through here in a fairly impressive fashion. Left my house it was 230pm and 55 according to the car. By the time I got to work at 330pm it was 37 has dropped since. Also nice frontal rain band mixed in on the drive in.


Its been snowing the last hour. Not really sticking buts its been a really strange weather day around here

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No kidding. It's like a pea soup fog out there. By the way, a little off topic, but what do you think of the snow chances for Saturday? Some models are hinting we might get something. My apologies if this is mentioned in another thread and I just didn't see it.


I'm in wait and see mode. Need to get the EURO on board before I get too excited. If the 18z GFS verified it would possibly be in excess of 10cm, especially near Lk Ontario. But the way this winter's gone, it's best to stay skeptical.

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13F up on the bluff. Clear blue skies the last few hours. Coldest nite of the season coming up.

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Not much moisture, but look how much colder the system for early next week has trended.

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I'm in wait and see mode. Need to get the EURO on board before I get too excited. If the 18z GFS verified it would possibly be in excess of 10cm, especially near Lk Ontario. But the way this winter's gone, it's best to stay skeptical.


Jinx!

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Already into the teens here.

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When I lived in Ann Arbor for 4 years, I could never believe the totals that were reported "unofficially" at the coop or whatever station they were using. Yes, it's definitely a tad snowier spot in southeast Michigan but seems the totals were always inflated.

Maybe I'm a more conservative snow measurer, but there were often times that totals would come in double than what I could ever find. It would baffle me that Ann Arbor would report a 6" total, yet I measured 3" and numerous times I'd measure maybe an inch or an inch and a half while the "unofficial" total was 2 to 3 inches.

I think in places in the Midwest it's quite common for two very close places to end up with wildly different seasonal totals just on that small margin of error. Especially in the lakes where you can easily have 30+ days of measurable snow, a site that reports just 0.6" more for each event, while not visibly noticeable or appear out of whack on a PNS now has a whopping 18" more for a seasonal total.

I remember that. And if I recall some of those were the years when DTW was lowballing (maybe 2003-04-2004-05?) so it made for a ridiculous contrast. You'd have to ask hm if it sounds legit, but it doesnt seem that they inflate as much now. I dont live in AA obviously so I cant say, but as I said it seems every single snowfall Ann Arbor is getting the heaviest radar echos sit over them, luck out almost every time.

I think Youngstown, OH would get the inflation award and Toronto Pearson the lowballing award, per what I read on the board.

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Fast transition. Heavy rain to med/high ratio flurries in a matter of 3 hours. In Michiagn there is an old saying.."if ya don't like the weather, wait 10 minutes"

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Fast transition. Heavy rain to med/high ratio flurries in a matter of 3 hours. In Michiagn there is an old saying.."if ya don't like the weather, wait 10 minutes"

I think that saying is used in more states than Michigan. You just insert your state of choice.

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Not much moisture, but look how much colder the system for early next week has trended.


Yeah, but it is as zonal as hell. Looks disjointed and confused. No western trough, but no cold either.

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I think that saying is used in more states than Michigan. You just insert your state of choice.


Yep, I've even heard it around here.

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I think that saying is used in more states than Michigan. You just insert your state of choice.


Used outside the US as well.

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I remember that. And if I recall some of those were the years when DTW was lowballing (maybe 2003-04-2004-05?) so it made for a ridiculous contrast. You'd have to ask hm if it sounds legit, but it doesnt seem that they inflate as much now. I dont live in AA obviously so I cant say, but as I said it seems every single snowfall Ann Arbor is getting the heaviest radar echos sit over them, luck out almost every time.

I think Youngstown, OH would get the inflation award and Toronto Pearson the lowballing award, per what I read on the board.


Ridic (<I'll write that once, and never again) bad, but I've noticed since GHD 2011 onward they've seemed better. Too small a sample size to judge, but hopefully a paradigm shift.

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Jinx!


lulz

I could not have circumscribed my expectations any more.

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OT but it's worth sharing...i know the mount ranier totals are often wild but this is one of the more ridiculous 24 hour totals i've ever seen

Wednesday: Snow. The snow could be heavy at times. High near 23. Windy, with a southwest wind around 30 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 34 to 40 inches possible.

Wednesday Night: Snow. The snow could be heavy at times. Low around 21. Windy, with a west southwest wind between 30 and 33 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 31 to 37 inches possible.


Christ. Gotta love those 3+in/hr rates for 24 hours straight

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15 °F as of 7 pm, over 12 hours of night time cooling left...

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15 °F as of 7 pm, over 12 hours of night time cooling left...

Gunna be a cold night for a Floridian.

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Amazing temperature drop from 45F to 32F in less than one hour here in north Toronto. Winds howling, temperature still falling...

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Gunna be a cold night for a Floridian.

The coldest temperature in the history of Florida was -2 °F just outside of Tallahassee back in 1899. That's well north of my homeland of South Florida though, where the coldest temperature in Miami history was 27 °F in 1917. It probably got down into the mid-upper teens where I grew up 20 miles inland.

So yup, it's already colder tonight than it has ever been in recorded history where I grew up. 13 °F as of 8 pm.

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The coldest temperature in the history of Florida was -2 °F just outside of Tallahassee back in 1899. That's well north of my homeland of South Florida though, where the coldest temperature in Miami history was 27 °F in 1917. It probably got down into the mid-upper teens where I grew up 20 miles inland.

So yup, it's already colder tonight than it has ever been in recorded history where I grew up. 13 °F as of 8 pm.

Nice pretty damn cold.

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At 4 pm it was 60 degrees here in Cleveland. At 9 pm it was snowing in the low to mid 30s. I've never seen it go from 60 to snow in less than 5 hours. Incredible.

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I wonder if Miami can even get that cold anymore? You would think with all the concrete down there, the heat island effect would really absorb some heat on those cold clear Florida days...who knows... It was all swamp and scrub back in 1917.

Looks like single digits around here (on WU)... Sparta showing 1F right now ...

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I wonder if Miami can even get that cold anymore? You would think with all the concrete down there, the heat island effect would really absorb some heat on those cold clear Florida days...who knows... It was all swamp and scrub back in 1917.

Looks like single digits around here (on WU)... Sparta showing 1F right now ...

The coastal urban heat island has a tremendous effect from Homestead to Palm Beach, the coldest of nights generally stay 30 °F or above, and I can't stress how much it takes to get a freeze in the actual metropolitan areas. I'm guessing upper 20s may not happen again for a long time in Miami.

On the other side of the coin, the inland areas have gotten so much drier (they drained the swamps) that nights get colder out in the far suburbs than they did historically.

Down to 12 °F even with strong enough winds to bust up any sort of tight radiational cooling layer.

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At 4 pm it was 60 degrees here in Cleveland. At 9 pm it was snowing in the low to mid 30s. I've never seen it go from 60 to snow in less than 5 hours. Incredible.


Yeah. Incredible front!

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Down to 15°F. Wind chill running 0°-10°F. Received 1.2" of snow this morning.

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Face was numb after taking a jog. Just enough wind to really make it feel bitter. Nothing worse then a frozen face, while the rest of my body is sweating.

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So this was my day in weather...woke up to pouring rain, very mild temps ended up soaring even higher, to 53F by early afternoon, even most small snowpiles were completely destroyed, now in the evening temps are in the 20s and dropping, wind chills in the low teens, and a trace of snow is dusted on rooftops and such. We went from 52F at 2pm to flurries and 35F at 5 Exciting and changeable for sure, but I wouldve taken sub-freezing, dry, boring weather over today in mid-January lol.

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So this was my day in weather...woke up to pouring rain, very mild temps ended up soaring even higher, to 53F by early afternoon, even most small snowpiles were completely destroyed, now in the evening temps are in the 20s and dropping, wind chills in the low teens, and a trace of snow is dusted on rooftops and such. We went from 52F at 2pm to flurries and 35F at 5 Exciting and changeable for sure, but I wouldve taken sub-freezing, dry, boring weather over today in mid-January lol.



Wow, you guys out east had some crazy swings today.

Already down to 11 here. Probably heading to somewhere in the 0 to 5 above range. Coldest so far this season is 3 above.

NWS point has us only hitting 8 above for a high on Thursday.

Final snow total the best I could tell was 0.7". Was a challenge measuring with the snow being blown all around again. There's still about an inch of frozen crust left from the previous snow that never completely melted, so averaging about 1-2" of snow cover.

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Wow, you guys out east had some crazy swings today.

Already down to 11 here. Probably heading to somewhere in the 0 to 5 above range. Coldest so far this season is 3 above.

NWS point has us only hitting 8 above for a high on Thursday.

Final snow total the best I could tell was 0.7". Was a challenge measuring with the snow being blown all around again. There's still about an inch of frozen crust left from the previous snow that never completely melted, so averaging about 1-2" of snow cover.

It was about as exciting a weather day as you can get for a non-snowstorm in mid-January, but Id rather be in your shoes attm, snowcover trumps the rest for me lol. If the models are right though, a winter wonderland isnt too far off though....





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