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[weatherwiz]

It definitely has to be snowing at higher elevations in CT...I'm like about 50' and the rain coming down kind of looks like freshly melted snowfalkes..kind of big drops...hard to explain but I hate my 50' elevation.

[wxsniss]

ORH_wxman, on 12 January 2012 - 01:47 AM, said:

Exit 68 webcam looks like the vis might be reduced a bit...could be snowing there, but hard to tell on the grainy image...unfortunately, exit 68 is only about 500-550 feet elevation so it won't help us in figuring out anything above 600 or 700 feet...where I think its probably snowing.

some other CT webcams (not many out there!)

- Simsbury CT:
http://www.instacam....id=SMSBR&size=L

- Goshen CT <---- flakes visible here
http://www.instacam....id=GOSHN&size=L

this is amusing, what an undeserving storm for so much attention...

[ORH_wxman]

weatherwiz, on 12 January 2012 - 01:54 AM, said:

It definitely has to be snowing at higher elevations in CT...I'm like about 50' and the rain coming down kind of looks like freshly melted snowfalkes..kind of big drops...hard to explain but I hate my 50' elevation.

You probably have "catpaws" as they are often referred to...rain drops with an ice nucleus that hasn't completely melted yet as it falls through the warmer lower few hundred feet of the atmosphere. Temps in in the hills to your northeast are in the 33-34F range with even probably near freezing in Union...so I'm sure its starting as snow there.

[cpick79]

i'm hoping this POS winter can pull something outta its azz 2nite for someone ...anyone.

precip shield making steady progess NE now.

i would think N worcester sees flakes within 15 min.

looks like exit 68 in ct. is snowing to me but not clear yet.

[weatherwiz]

wxsniss, on 12 January 2012 - 01:56 AM, said:

- Simsbury CT:
http://www.instacam....id=SMSBR&size=L

- Goshen CT <---- flakes visible here
http://www.instacam....id=GOSHN&size=L

this is amusing, what an undeserving storm for so much attention...

Well to be fair the weather has been so boring we haven't had this type of excitement in a while.

[weatherwiz]

ORH_wxman, on 12 January 2012 - 01:56 AM, said:

You probably have "catpaws" as they are often referred to...rain drops with an ice nucleus that hasn't completely melted yet as it falls through the warmer lower few hundred feet of the atmosphere. Temps in in the hills to your northeast are in the 33-34F range with even probably near freezing in Union...so I'm sure its starting as snow there.

Yup...that's what those are...just pisses me off.
I didn't realize it was actually that cold in the hills...so yeah they def must be snowing.

[ORH_wxman]

cpick79, on 12 January 2012 - 01:57 AM, said:

i'm hoping this POS winter can pull something outta its azz 2nite for someone ...anyone.

precip shield making steady progess NE now.

i would think N worcester sees flakes within 15 min.

looks like exit 68 in ct. is snowing to me but not clear yet.

Watching the precip try to advance in Windham County CT is like watching paint dry...I probably wont see snow for another 45 minutes at least. The good news is the RUC cooled off considerably on its 06z run and has an easy snow sounding at 09z which means we should probably be safe until 5am...hopefully its a bit later than that. But at the very least, I'd like to see if we can rip for 2-3 hours in this band coming up.

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Who cares

[sbos_wx]

40/70 Benchmark, on 12 January 2012 - 02:03 AM, said:

Who cares

65.4/55.3 in gaymington

[40/70 Benchmark]

36.3\31
Heavy ***s

[cpick79]

^{sometimes i use the composite radar to pick up on the leading edge of precip a bit better and it shows a solid wall moving into s. worcester (city) light stuff but either way that band finally looks like it's making progess (even on base ) and better it shouldn't take that long to get the heavy stuff over you.}

[weatherwiz]

Will be interesting to see what these heavier echos bring me...they just really blew up. maybe mixed with snow or sleet

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[ORH_wxman]

cpick79, on 12 January 2012 - 02:06 AM, said:

^{sometimes i use the composite radar to pick up on the leading edge of precip a bit better and it shows a solid wall moving into s. worcester (city) light stuff but either way that band finally looks like it's making progess (even on base ) and better it shouldn't take that long to get the heavy stuff over you.}

Its virga I'm pretty sure...if you zoon into BOX local radar you can see where its reaching...its possible I see some weenie flakes if the leading edge of virga starts to intensify a bit, but its probably going to be until at least 2:45-3am until the good stuff gets over here...but I'll gladly take sooner.

[sbos_wx]

cpick79, on 12 January 2012 - 02:06 AM, said:

^{sometimes i use the composite radar to pick up on the leading edge of precip a bit better and it shows a solid wall moving into s. worcester (city) light stuff but either way that band finally looks like it's making progess (even on base ) and better it shouldn't take that long to get the heavy stuff over you.}

WTF is up with your font? Leprechaun

[cpick79]

ray are you hanging around bc deep down you have a lil weenie hope of dynamicallly cooling to 33/32 heavy snow from 3-5 /6 am. the winds could still turn more north for you and not completely taint BL when hvy stuff gets there

[weatherwiz]

ORH_wxman, on 12 January 2012 - 02:08 AM, said:

Its virga I'm pretty sure...if you zoon into BOX local radar you can see where its reaching...its possible I see some weenie flakes if the leading edge of virga starts to intensify a bit, but its probably going to be until at least 2:45-3am until the good stuff gets over here...but I'll gladly take sooner.

How much of the leading edge do you think is virga? When I looked at the radar then looked outside I was actually quite shocked to already see the ground fairly wet (it had to be precipitating out for at least a few minutes) and there was a mix of rain/flakes/a few sleet pings.

[wxsniss]

kbos to 40/32

even virga would be more exciting

[sbos_wx]

cpick79, on 12 January 2012 - 02:10 AM, said:

ray are you hanging around bc deep down you have a lil weenie hope of dynamicallly cooling to 33/32 heavy snow from 3-5 /6 am. the winds could still turn more north for you and not completely taint BL when hvy stuff gets there

Its probably because we still have liquor left.

[weatherwiz]

From twitter:

joey20021714 (joey sciarra)
chrome-extension://encaiiljifbdbjlphpgpiimidegddhic/img/retweet.png@gilsimmons Snowing pretty hard in Tolland right now with some sleet mixed in!

[ORH_wxman]

Its good to see several of the stations start turning the winds more NE...PWM actually turned almost due north and dropped from 32 to 29 and the dewpoint dropped to 19....so hopefully this can start getting advected southward

[cpick79]

n.smithfield ri cam looks like flakes to me

http://www.tmc.dot.r...termapview.aspx#

love those updates RE; portland maine turning north

[ineedsnow]

just started as a rain snow sleet mix

[weatherwiz]

ORH_wxman, on 12 January 2012 - 02:14 AM, said:

Its good to see several of the stations start turning the winds more NE...PWM actually turned almost due north and dropped from 32 to 29 and the dewpoint dropped to 19....so hopefully this can start getting advected southward

Hopefully you don't see a great deal of that dry air advect downward...I know eventually the column is going to saturate but if the dry air really begins to dig in that will in turn eat away at the precip. shield and could cut down on the amount of time people see snow

[Logan11]

Just don't wait until you're 38 like me to get out of the desolate valley. LOL Not that my elevation has meant squat this abysmal season, but usually helps.

weatherwiz, on 12 January 2012 - 01:54 AM, said:

It definitely has to be snowing at higher elevations in CT...I'm like about 50' and the rain coming down kind of looks like freshly melted snowfalkes..kind of big drops...hard to explain but I hate my 50' elevation.

[ORH_wxman]

weatherwiz, on 12 January 2012 - 02:20 AM, said:

Hopefully you don't see a great deal of that dry air advect downward...I know eventually the column is going to saturate but if the dry air really begins to dig in that will in turn eat away at the precip. shield and could cut down on the amount of time people see snow

No we def want it in this instance. It would prolong the wintry precip here if we connect up with those dewpoints in Maine...I'm skeptical it happens anyway...but if it does happen, then it would mean a lot longer period of icing.

I do not think we are in any danger of losing much precip to dry air with this current slug moving north. Usually in cold storms where you are closer to the northwest edge of the precip shield is when you worry about advecting too much dry air into the region. In this case, the dry air would act as an evaporational cooling agent to keep the temps from rising as we go along in this storm. That is what happened in the Dec '08 ice storm...ice storms will self-destruct after 4-8 hours (depending on starting temp) if there isn't a physical process to offset the latent heat release from the freezing rain at the surface...that is why without it, you slowly warm until you hit 33F and rain and then stop.

[weatherwiz]

Logan11, on 12 January 2012 - 02:24 AM, said:

Just don't wait until you're 38 like me to get out of the desolate valley. LOL Not that my elevation has meant squat this abysmal season, but usually helps.

I seriously don't know where I want to live.

It's all going to depend on where my first met job is (if that day ever comes).

I'm not even sure why I'm upset...I was not expecting more than a dusting or a coating of snow at most but I'm still upset...I guess it's like when your favorite team is in a BIG game and you expect them to lose and when they do you're still upset...even tohugh you expected it.

[Sn0waddict]

Rain... would complain but last winter was so damn amazing. Can't say I'm shocked it was followed with such a ****ty winter.

[ineedsnow]

mostly snow now

[Logan11]

FYI ...Moderate snow here now and 1.5 inches down. 30.7F.

ORH_wxman, on 12 January 2012 - 02:25 AM, said:

No we def want it in this instance. It would prolong the wintry precip here if we connect up with those dewpoints in Maine...I'm skeptical it happens anyway...but if it does happen, then it would mean a lot longer period of icing.

I do not think we are in any danger of losing much precip to dry air with this current slug moving north. Usually in cold storms where you are closer to the northwest edge of the precip shield is when you worry about advecting too much dry air into the region. In this case, the dry air would act as an evaporational cooling agent to keep the temps from rising as we go along in this storm. That is what happened in the Dec '08 ice storm...ice storms will self-destruct after 4-8 hours (depending on starting temp) if there isn't a physical process to offset the latent heat release from the freezing rain at the surface...that is why without it, you slowly warm until you hit 33F and rain and then stop.

[weatherwiz]

ORH_wxman, on 12 January 2012 - 02:25 AM, said:

No we def want it in this instance. It would prolong the wintry precip here if we connect up with those dewpoints in Maine...I'm skeptical it happens anyway...but if it does happen, then it would mean a lot longer period of icing.

I do not think we are in any danger of losing much precip to dry air with this current slug moving north. Usually in cold storms where you are closer to the northwest edge of the precip shield is when you worry about advecting too much dry air into the region. In this case, the dry air would act as an evaporational cooling agent to keep the temps from rising as we go along in this storm. That is what happened in the Dec '08 ice storm...ice storms will self-destruct after 4-8 hours (depending on starting temp) if there isn't a physical process to offset the latent heat release from the freezing rain at the surface...that is why without it, you slowly warm until you hit 33F and rain and then stop.

Thanks for the explanation. I would have never thought of it this way.

Speaking of Maine over the past few hours a very nice area of sfc frotongenesis has been developing from Maine and extending southwestward to eastern MA and back towards your area...something that could be of great benefit.

[ineedsnow]

mod snow..

[ORH_wxman]

Weenie flakes have commenced here.

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ORH_wxman, on 12 January 2012 - 02:36 AM, said:

Weenie flakes have commenced here.

[cpick79]

what the heck is temp in agawam weatherunderground temps look like 37/31 ....did it cool

[weatherwiz]

ORH_wxman, on 12 January 2012 - 02:36 AM, said:

Weenie flakes have commenced here.

you were close in timing.