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[Steve]

Sorry if i offend anyone..but i would like this forum to be used as a discussion of upcoming snow storms..not including Lake effect....you guys can use the other forum for that..it was pretty much getting to be all about the lake effect anyways..which is fine for all of you up that way..This forum may get pretty boring by the way winter has started..but i will take my chances..Thanks all!!

[talaub]

I got an idea...lets start a 3rd thread called "Let's talk winter..Ohio Valley and surrounding states..(No Lake-Effect Snows, System Snows Only, Excluding Newark & Columbus Folks on South). We could just talk about sytem snows from , say, lakeshore south to Mansfield-ish, Toledo to Ashtabula-ish. Then we could have 3 threads of nothing to talk about and I wouldn't need to read about "your" weather that really bores "us up here" folks!!! Stop with the divisiveness already...

[Steve]

talaub, on 11 December 2011 - 12:45 PM, said:

I got an idea...lets start a 3rd thread called "Let's talk winter..Ohio Valley and surrounding states..(No Lake-Effect Snows, System Snows Only, Excluding Newark & Columbus Folks on South). We could just talk about sytem snows from , say, lakeshore south to Mansfield-ish, Toledo to Ashtabula-ish. Then we could have 3 threads of nothing to talk about and I wouldn't need to read about "your" weather that really bores "us up here" folks!!! Stop with the divisiveness already...

All i can say is..Don't post here,i mean if all you can do is be sarcastic!! Just don't post!! We had 2 threads last year and no complaints..take the rudeness somewhere else!!

[BowMeHunter]

lol - hopefully scuba steve gets some snow soon.

[Thundersnow12]

Steve, on 9 December 2011 - 04:57 PM, said:

Sorry if i offend anyone..but i would like this forum to be used as a discussion of upcoming snow storms..not including Lake effect....you guys can use the other forum for that..it was pretty much getting to be all about the lake effect anyways..which is fine for all of you up that way..This forum may get pretty boring by the way winter has started..but i will take my chances..Thanks all!!

Is this a joke?

Thats what the whole board is for as a whole...and we make threads for each one.

[Steve]

Not sure why this thread is so hard to understand!! But whatever...either u post or u don't!! Not hard.

[Stebo48858]

Lol, classic

[wxdudemike]

Thanks Steve, the LE talk does get old after a while.

[Steve]

wxdudemike, on 12 December 2011 - 11:14 AM, said:

Thanks Steve, the LE talk does get old after a while.

Thank you Mike..at least someone understands why i did this!!

[wxdudemike]

Steve, on 12 December 2011 - 12:35 PM, said:

Thank you Mike..at least someone understands why i did this!!

I mean not that I don't care about anyone in northern OH lol but I agree it is kind of a different topic.

[buckeye]

Stebo48858, on 12 December 2011 - 02:32 AM, said:

Lol, classic

why's that?

Seems to make sense and we did it last year. Sure, not a big issue right now, but once the clipper machine turns on and arctic air starts making an appearance, it can get a bit confusing trying to figure out which posters are referencing lake effect vs. synoptic forecasts.

What's the big deal, why be a smart ass about it?

[dilly84]

Get em Buckeye. Haven't had much to talk about. I guess the thread would make sense once we have shots at systems. Snowstorm Dec 23/24 anyone?

[wxdudemike]

12z Euro is a big hit for a lot of Indiana and Ohio next Tuesday.

[Steve]

wxdudemike, on 12 December 2011 - 06:12 PM, said:

12z Euro is a big hit for a lot of Indiana and Ohio next Tuesday.

I seen rain for next tues..but it could change..temps they are saying right now low 4o's..so who knows..would be nice to see some snow.

[BuckeyeSam]

I appreciate the effort Steve. I love to see and hear about the huge lake effect snows, but unless you live in those select counties I might as well be reading about another noreaster that won't be bringing me a flurry. It's good to have a place to discuss synoptic events only that effects the broader region.

[Steve]

BuckeyeSam, on 13 December 2011 - 04:21 PM, said:

I appreciate the effort Steve. I love to see and hear about the huge lake effect snows, but unless you live in those select counties I might as well be reading about another noreaster that won't be bringing me a flurry. It's good to have a place to discuss synoptic events only that effects the broader region.

Exactly..thanks!!

[ArmyGreens]

Oooh! Its raining...again.

[OHweather]

wxdudemike, on 12 December 2011 - 06:12 PM, said:

12z Euro is a big hit for a lot of Indiana and Ohio next Tuesday.

The models have been bouncing around somewhat...the 0z Euro was a big hit for the northern 2/3rds of OH...the 12z GFS/Canadian were decent hits for northern OH but probably rain for central/southern OH. The 12z Euro was a huge hit up in MI for next Tuesday.

[dilly84]

Ehh, figured I would post the 0z GFS text output for CMH and such for next Monday/Tuesday. Looking a lot better than it was.

CMH
MON 18Z 19-DEC 2.4 2.8 1020 93 99 0.18 563 547
TUE 00Z 20-DEC 1.3 0.0 1020 97 93 0.17 563 546
TUE 06Z 20-DEC 0.8 -0.4 1020 97 98 0.18 560 544
TUE 12Z 20-DEC 0.5 1.1 1015 95 96 0.26 559 547
TUE 18Z 20-DEC 1.4 2.0 1009 100 93 0.05 553 545
WED 00Z 21-DEC 1.3 2.3 1007 100 89 0.04 545 539
WED 06Z 21-DEC 0.1 1.1 1007 97 77 0.01 547 542
WED 12Z 21-DEC -0.6 -0.9 1011 94 15 0.01 549 540

MFD
MON 18Z 19-DEC 2.4 2.1 1020 87 90 0.04 561 545
TUE 00Z 20-DEC 0.6 -1.0 1021 95 95 0.09 560 543
TUE 06Z 20-DEC 0.3 -1.5 1020 94 98 0.06 558 542
TUE 12Z 20-DEC -0.2 -1.1 1018 95 93 0.05 557 543
TUE 18Z 20-DEC 1.3 -0.4 1012 94 98 0.10 552 543
WED 00Z 21-DEC 1.2 0.3 1008 98 96 0.15 545 539
WED 06Z 21-DEC 0.6 -0.1 1007 99 89 0.10 546 540


CLE
MON 18Z 19-DEC 2.8 0.5 1020 82 77 0.01 559 543
TUE 00Z 20-DEC 1.4 -2.0 1021 88 67 0.04 558 541
TUE 06Z 20-DEC 0.7 -2.7 1020 88 78 0.02 556 539
TUE 12Z 20-DEC 0.5 -2.0 1019 90 58 0.00 557 542
TUE 18Z 20-DEC 2.2 -1.2 1014 85 90 0.04 553 542
WED 00Z 21-DEC 2.2 -0.4 1008 91 95 0.11 546 540
WED 06Z 21-DEC 1.6 -1.0 1006 93 92 0.14 544 540

Now I guess we'll see what the Euro does. Christmas Eve/Christmas is below freezing on the GFS with light precipitation as well, but it's a ways off for both, but hey, I am bored. =)

[dilly84]

Quaccuweather has snow for central Ohio for the 24th now

[ArmyGreens]

Good news is that we will be traveling to western Michigan for Christmas and most likely will get to enjoy snow from the big lake...bad news is the kids will want to sled when we get home...and I just don't feel confident about that yet.

[blackrock]

ArmyGreens, on 14 December 2011 - 08:21 PM, said:

Good news is that we will be traveling to western Michigan for Christmas and most likely will get to enjoy snow from the big lake...bad news is the kids will want to sled when we get home...and I just don't feel confident about that yet.

Good luck!!!! The "big lake" has given us pretty much nothing yet! With this crap pattern, every time a storm has gone past, there has been "no moisture" left with the cold air. We couldn't even get flurries last Friday when it was in the mid 20s....still waiting on the first inch. Sorry, but the lake can't even save us yet this winter.

[wxdudemike]

OHweather, on 13 December 2011 - 09:19 PM, said:

The models have been bouncing around somewhat...the 0z Euro was a big hit for the northern 2/3rds of OH...the 12z GFS/Canadian were decent hits for northern OH but probably rain for central/southern OH. The 12z Euro was a huge hit up in MI for next Tuesday.

Not gonna lie, I'm a little disappointed at how the Euro handled that storm in the day 5-8 range. The GFS actually was closer most of the time except when it originally had the super warm solution, but I believe that was past day 7. Of course it could still change, but we have decent model agreement as of this morning.

[OHweather]

wxdudemike, on 15 December 2011 - 11:06 AM, said:

Not gonna lie, I'm a little disappointed at how the Euro handled that storm in the day 5-8 range. The GFS actually was closer most of the time except when it originally had the super warm solution, but I believe that was past day 7. Of course it could still change, but we have decent model agreement as of this morning.

Ya, same here. The GFS ensembles and Euro ensembles were generally cooler than the op GFS as well when the storm was around the day 7 range if I recall correctly. This pattern doesn't look good to produce anything major for at least ten day to two weeks, and the models aren't really showing anything major either. Yawn.

[wxdudemike]

OHweather, on 15 December 2011 - 01:37 PM, said:

Ya, same here. The GFS ensembles and Euro ensembles were generally cooler than the op GFS as well when the storm was around the day 7 range if I recall correctly. This pattern doesn't look good to produce anything major for at least ten day to two weeks, and the models aren't really showing anything major either. Yawn.

However I wouldn't rule out a thread the needle storm. It likely wouldn't be anything big, but I could see maybe a 1-3 inch storm happening. Or perhaps a quick inch on the backside of a system. But I agree nothing very big for at least two weeks.

[Steve]

Someone help me...there is this very light fluffy white stuff falling from the sky..any clues as what this may be..Forcast certainly did not mention this at all!!

[wxdudemike]

Steve, on 17 December 2011 - 10:45 AM, said:

Someone help me...there is this very light fluffy white stuff falling from the sky..any clues as what this may be..Forcast certainly did not mention this at all!!

Had it in my forecast Kind of surprised if the NWS didn't...the GFS and Euro both clearly showed the weak clipper coming close enough to Columbus for a few flurries.

[wxdudemike]

I posted this in the other Ohio thread too...

It's really frustrating to see such a waste of potential:



And we've seen this over and over again in the past month or so. BIG trough which could spin up a decent surface low for a snowstorm here. BUT there isn't enough of a high out in the Atlantic to force the trough to go negative. So it stays positive therefore can't spin up much of anything. If that bad boy were to go negative then WATCH OUT right over Ohio. Unfortunately that doesn't fit out weather pattern at all so I wouldn't hold my breath...

The 0z Euro has several shots of light snow Friday through Sunday. It probably won't amount to anything, but at least we could have some flakes flying around Christmas.

[ArmyGreens]

So, anyone tracking the liquid snowstorm tonight through midweek? I should see about 1" of liquid snow real soon!

[dilly84]

ArmyGreens, on 19 December 2011 - 04:31 PM, said:

So, anyone tracking the liquid snowstorm tonight through midweek? I should see about 1" of liquid snow real soon!

I actually think we will get an inch or two on Christmas Eve. Enough to whiten things up. Would be nice if some of the ensembles were correct.

[dilly84]

A little something to get excited about?

CMH
SUN 00Z 25-DEC 3.2 -1.2 1013 97 72 0.26 547 536

MFD
SUN 00Z 25-DEC 2.4 -1.0 1012 98 93 0.29 547 538
SUN 06Z 25-DEC 0.3 -3.6 1016 96 36 0.05 548 536
SUN 12Z 25-DEC 0.1 -3.3 1017 93 29 0.01 547 534

[dilly84]

ECMWF
cmh
SUN 12Z 25-DEC 0.8 -2.7 1022 74 97 0.01 553 535
SUN 18Z 25-DEC 1.3 -3.7 1018 91 96 0.16 546 532

Ehh not much for cmh but a little hope

[dilly84]

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[Steve]

Local mets here saying maybe some accumalating snows tuesday..Would be nice to see..Even if it melts 2 days later!!

[vespasian70]

Perhaps it's a late xmas gift for all us snow starved Ohians? We shall see...